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CoasteNgineer

CoasteNgineer

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Hi everyone!
I'm new on this site. My name is Adry, and I'm a Mechanical Engineer based on Spain 🇪🇸
I pretend to do an "ask/answer" forum in order to bring a closer look of the Roller Coaster Mechanisms🎢⚙️, so, do not hesitate to aks the doubts/curiosities about these wonderful engineering devices.

For example (about B&M HyperCoasters).
Did you know that there is an small CI engine that, in a blackout event, runs in order to keep the train climbing the lift hill? Does anyonew know the manufacturer of this engine?
 

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CoasteNgineer said:
Hi everyone!
I'm new on this site. My name is Adry, and I'm a Mechanical Engineer based on Spain 🇪🇸
I pretend to do an "ask/answer" forum in order to bring a closer look of the Roller Coaster Mechanisms🎢⚙️, so, do not hesitate to aks the doubts/curiosities about these wonderful engineering devices.

For example (about B&M HyperCoasters).
Did you know that there is an small CI engine that, in a blackout event, runs in order to keep the train climbing the lift hill? Does anyonew know the manufacturer of this engine?
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Some B&M Flyer's also have this
 
Are those motors for getting an empty train back to the brakes during a power cut? I assume a power cut is an e-stop and evac event?
 
Dar said:
Are those motors for getting an empty train back to the brakes during a power cut? I assume a power cut is an e-stop and evac event?
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Usually if it's empty it's left, if it's full it's quicker and easier (especially flyers) to power it over the top and evac on the brake run.
Estops can be reset so usually not, more of a ride system shut down or power loss
 
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VonRolland said:
Usually if it's empty it's left, if it's full it's quicker and easier (especially flyers) to power it over the top and evac on the brake run.
Estops can be reset so usually not, more of a ride system shut down or power loss
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Indeed, evacuation is a last resort only if the train can't be moved by other means.
 
ChristianPalsson said:
How do you evac a flyer? Seems very difficult and dangerous.
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They have a platform that slides up the lift hill and allows them to build a temporary platform underneath each row of the train. Here's a pic from Google:
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CoasteNgineer said:
It seems to be a Deutz engine (by the engine color), but i dont find any model
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Could be, that would make it the same as the backup engine used on Kumali at Flamingoland.

VonRolland said:
Not at all dangerous, more dangerous crossing the road
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Evacuation is dangerous, that's why it should only ever be done as a last resort. You have to go through a whole list of options to recover the train before you can even consider evacuation away from the station platform.
 
The Undead Creature said:
Could be, that would make it the same as the backup engine used on Kumali at Flamingoland.



Evacuation is dangerous, that's why it should only ever be done as a last resort. You have to go through a whole list of options to recover the train before you can even consider evacuation away from the station platform.
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do you know the type?
 
The Undead Creature said:
Could be, that would make it the same as the backup engine used on Kumali at Flamingoland.



Evacuation is dangerous, that's why it should only ever be done as a last resort. You have to go through a whole list of options to recover the train before you can even consider evacuation away from the station platform.
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They aren't dangerous if procedure is followed to the T same with many things in life
 
Hixee said:
They have a platform that slides up the lift hill and allows them to build a temporary platform underneath each row of the train. Here's a pic from Google:
9719070-16x9-xlarge.jpg
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Thanks! Always though they had to call the fire truck to evac. I got stopped ones for a couple of seconds on Tatsu's lift hill. Was so exited to see what would happen. But then sadly the train started moving.
 
VonRolland said:
They aren't dangerous if procedure is followed to the T same with many things in life
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You can have all the procedures in the world but they only serve to reduce the risk, they will never make something 100% safe. As soon as you release the harness, there is a risk that the person can fall to the ground, you reduce that risk by providing things like fall arrest harnesses and edge protection railings. Even with those steps taken, there is still a risk that someone can fall, but now they won't hit the floor.
 
I'm not sure I agree with this idea that evacs are a last resort / dangerous / should be avoided, etc. It's an interesting topic but I can tell you some of the major players in the industry would much rather evac a train if there's anything unknown at play. I read above "Estops can be reset" implying 'just send the passengers back around', but that's not a healthy attitude in my book. A lot of rides will require you to switch to Maintenance mode to reset and that should never be done with passengers on the train (Maintenance mode... clue's in the name!) so no, I would say evacuating instead can be healthy in many cases. Sorry if some parks disagree!

Regarding the specific engine type for backup on a B&M hyper, sorry, I can't help you!
 
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