$452 Million Expansion for Hong Kong Disneyland
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I agree with Gavin on this and tbh to get information on the Disney parks in the Far East you have to look or be part of Disney forums.
As it requires a bit of research there are only a few of us that actually look for it and then you think what's the point posting it as a new bin at Alton gets more attention
Yeah that's probably the wrong attitude but it does get frustrating.
If this was in Paris or Orlando there would be pages about it. Neither places would ever get anything like this as it would blow the budget 4 times over.
Anyway.
Was a bit surprised it was in English as the other rides and shows do not appear to be?
Yep thinking of leaving it until the the new China park opens and will do all the Disney parks over there.
As it requires a bit of research there are only a few of us that actually look for it and then you think what's the point posting it as a new bin at Alton gets more attention
Yeah that's probably the wrong attitude but it does get frustrating.
If this was in Paris or Orlando there would be pages about it. Neither places would ever get anything like this as it would blow the budget 4 times over.
Anyway.
Was a bit surprised it was in English as the other rides and shows do not appear to be?
Yep thinking of leaving it until the the new China park opens and will do all the Disney parks over there.
SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
Do they though? Do they get the quality and interesting experiences the others do?Edward M said:
Marc said:
For the other rides/shows with any kind of commentary, the Hong Kong park has choices of language: English, Mandarin and Cantonese.
For example, with Stitch Encounter the language is posted with the show times, so you go to a show with the language you want. For Jungle Cruise there are three separate queues and you join the queue based on the language you want. They run it in such a way that the wait times will be the same regardless of the language chosen.
I'm pretty sure Festival of the Lion King was in English as well, or it might have been just the songs with the spoken bits in Cantonese. I can't really remember now.
I have no idea if there's any kind of language option on Mystic Manor though, but I don't really see why there couldn't be.
From what's being said on forums this is only in English.
It's strange as when we were in Paris I asked for English and got told there is no English pre show. Cannot remember now if I asked on tot but I asked on Star Tours. There were 10 of us and they did not put the English version on for us. Tbh I just accept now that everything will be in the langue of the country.
I just hate it when they mix and match, ie half English half whatever.
It's strange as when we were in Paris I asked for English and got told there is no English pre show
. Cannot remember now if I asked on tot but I asked on Star Tours. There were 10 of us and they did not put the English version on for us. Tbh I just accept now that everything will be in the langue of the country.I just hate it when they mix and match, ie half English half whatever.
peep said:
Based on their other attractions, if they were going to do it they wouldn't just "guess" the language. The system they use on Jungle Cruise could/would work. You would queue up for the language you want and then it would be set from the preshow accordingly.
It really does seem as though this is just in English though. For most locals in Hong Kong this wouldn't be too much of an issue, but it really might be for visitors from the mainland.
Having said that, I don't think the ride needs any dialogue at all to be able to understand the basic storyline: naughty monkey opens magic box, things go a bit ape ****, monkey closes box and things are back to normal.
Tower of Terror in Paris has English options for both the pre-show and the ride, I've experienced both. Star Tours has subtitles I think? This might be something that changes when Star Tours II is introduced though?
The whole mixing of languages doesn't bother me at all, I'd rather have that than not know what's going on. Sometimes it can be done in an odd way in shows but most of the time I'm ok with it.
The whole mixing of languages doesn't bother me at all, I'd rather have that than not know what's going on. Sometimes it can be done in an odd way in shows but most of the time I'm ok with it.
I just don't see the point in it, but that's me lol. If just sort of annoying as we cannot understand one part but they can probably understand it all.
Yes I could learn other languages but I tried, I have enough problems with English.
But as said if I go to Germany, France, Japan etc it is a bit rude of me to expect stuff in English. It's just other countries tend to learn English.
Yes I could learn other languages but I tried, I have enough problems with English.
But as said if I go to Germany, France, Japan etc it is a bit rude of me to expect stuff in English. It's just other countries tend to learn English.
Joey said:
No, God no.
I liked the outward look of New Fantasyland, but there's still not a lot there (I know it isn't finished, smart ass).
Florida is obviously still awesome, but it's nowhere near as high quality as Hong Kong.
Hong Kong is so awesome, I loved it. It reminded me a lot of California but with less there (obviously). But now with all the other stuff they're throwing it it'll be awesome.
iStill want Tokyo <//3
Nemesis Inferno
Strata Poster
gavin said:
Would you believe me if I said I've seen some people moaning that this story is "too basic" to make this ride fantastic?
I want the monkey, that is all I have to say...
gavin said:
Yeah, the show's done in English but the monkey dudes butt in every now and then to explain what's going on for the Chinese audience.
Mystic Manor looks amazing!
Everything they've built over the last few years seems to have been excellent, and this park is quickly growing into one of the best Disney parks in the world.
^It's understandable for most people to think that.
For most people on this site, Hong Kong Disney would be the first new Disney park they would've seen opening, and it did open with very few attractions. It was a gorgeous little park, with top-quality, unique attractions, but it wasn't as much of a "full" park as the others in the chain. The ridiculously low entry price reflected this though. I think I paid about £20 when I went a couple of years after opening, and that wasn't through any kind of special offer; the gate price was that low.
Us older members might remember the abject disaster that was Eurodisney for quite a few years after it opened. I was only a kid, but still remember how it was labeled as a major failure in so many news articles and news shows. I even remember Whoopi Goldberg taking the piss out of it when she was presenting the Oscars the year after it opened. In comparison, Hong Kong have absolutely been doing things the right way.
Yes. Yes, I would. People will moan about anything. I should know as I've turned bitching and complaining into a fine art form.
It's a Disney attraction, so the storyline has to be simple to appeal to every age group. All a ride story is supposed to do anyway is to set up the the main premise of the ride and offer a brief explanation as to why things happen. This does it perfectly, especially given any language issues.
I was trying to think what the monkey animatronic reminded me of. It's very reminiscent of the ones used in Sinbad's Storybook Voyage at DisneySea: sort of a real-life cartoon.
For most people on this site, Hong Kong Disney would be the first new Disney park they would've seen opening, and it did open with very few attractions. It was a gorgeous little park, with top-quality, unique attractions, but it wasn't as much of a "full" park as the others in the chain. The ridiculously low entry price reflected this though. I think I paid about £20 when I went a couple of years after opening, and that wasn't through any kind of special offer; the gate price was that low.
Us older members might remember the abject disaster that was Eurodisney for quite a few years after it opened. I was only a kid, but still remember how it was labeled as a major failure in so many news articles and news shows. I even remember Whoopi Goldberg taking the piss out of it when she was presenting the Oscars the year after it opened. In comparison, Hong Kong have absolutely been doing things the right way.
Nemesis Inferno said:
Yes. Yes, I would. People will moan about anything. I should know as I've turned bitching and complaining into a fine art form.
It's a Disney attraction, so the storyline has to be simple to appeal to every age group. All a ride story is supposed to do anyway is to set up the the main premise of the ride and offer a brief explanation as to why things happen. This does it perfectly, especially given any language issues.
I was trying to think what the monkey animatronic reminded me of. It's very reminiscent of the ones used in Sinbad's Storybook Voyage at DisneySea: sort of a real-life cartoon.
Tim
Roller Poster
I would go as far as to say this is the finest example of a family ride built to date. Barely anybody is excluded from experiencing it (I don't know the height limit, but I doubt they would even turn toddlers away), and I can't imagine anybody coming off it not having been entertained on some level.
If the goal of a theme park attraction is to be as popular and entertain as many people as possible, then Mystic Manor might be the most successful example existing today.
Just some interesting things I've noticed from watching a few of the videos...
-The roman pot scene has a figure jump out the reach of the lion. When he does, a physical figure of the painted character pops out the top of the jug!
-The medusa portrait actually folds inwards towards the ride vehicle when in scare transition, making the projection appear to lurch at riders
-The swordsman swinging at the monkey in the cannon moves unbelievable fast for an animatronic. Seriously, moving a figure that fast, accurately and repeatedly is quite the challenge
-In the big finale room with the multi-wall projection, when the wall gets blasted away to show the outdoor scene it actually DOES get blasted away! The whole wall is made of shaped panels on hinges that snap out of sight and reveal a new screen in the distance behind them!
-There seems to be retracting scrims in the first (and last) rooms. When the lights go out and the music box opens, a projection material must be dropped or raised from somewhere so that pixie dust effect can be seen in mid air?
Anyway, I want this ride so much. It's even given me faith about the Ratatouille ride Paris is getting- and I previously had zero interest in that!
As for the single complaint I've seen on the internet so far... that the story is "cliché and simple".
I barely want to acknowledge the pompous twat who said that, but I will raise a few of the design challenges that would lead to a story some retards might conceive as "too obvious and simple"
- You only have 4 mins to tell the story
- The audience speak in multiple languages
- The audience are between the ages of 3 and 103
- Half the audience dont give a ****, will stop paying attention after ten seconds and just want to see sparkly lights
If the goal of a theme park attraction is to be as popular and entertain as many people as possible, then Mystic Manor might be the most successful example existing today.
Just some interesting things I've noticed from watching a few of the videos...
-The roman pot scene has a figure jump out the reach of the lion. When he does, a physical figure of the painted character pops out the top of the jug!
-The medusa portrait actually folds inwards towards the ride vehicle when in scare transition, making the projection appear to lurch at riders
-The swordsman swinging at the monkey in the cannon moves unbelievable fast for an animatronic. Seriously, moving a figure that fast, accurately and repeatedly is quite the challenge
-In the big finale room with the multi-wall projection, when the wall gets blasted away to show the outdoor scene it actually DOES get blasted away! The whole wall is made of shaped panels on hinges that snap out of sight and reveal a new screen in the distance behind them!
-There seems to be retracting scrims in the first (and last) rooms. When the lights go out and the music box opens, a projection material must be dropped or raised from somewhere so that pixie dust effect can be seen in mid air?
Anyway, I want this ride so much. It's even given me faith about the Ratatouille ride Paris is getting- and I previously had zero interest in that!
As for the single complaint I've seen on the internet so far... that the story is "cliché and simple".
I barely want to acknowledge the pompous twat who said that, but I will raise a few of the design challenges that would lead to a story some retards might conceive as "too obvious and simple"
- You only have 4 mins to tell the story
- The audience speak in multiple languages
- The audience are between the ages of 3 and 103
- Half the audience dont give a ****, will stop paying attention after ten seconds and just want to see sparkly lights
spicy
Giga Poster
It just looks awesome. Disney at their best, introducing new characters and original storyline. Rather than creating attractions based on existing films.
If Ratatouille is half as good as this it will be awesome.
Hope Mystic Manor ends up in at least another Disney park though.
If Ratatouille is half as good as this it will be awesome.
Hope Mystic Manor ends up in at least another Disney park though.
