AeRo said:
There are ways and means of challenging opinion. I do it quite often, and always justify the stance I am taking. If my boss disagrees, he is the boss and is paid to make the decisions, just as I am paid to carry them out.
Of course, but you arent going to tell them to go **** themselves, now are you? You polietly say that you think doing something else is a better idea, and then you give your reasons why. I would think teachers, bosses, and other people in power positions would actually appreciate that, since you are trying to help them come up with the best decision. That is, unless they are total power mongers, and fire you on the spot for stating your opinion, but who would want to work for such a prick in the first place?
AeRo said:
I think that is more about letting yourself down by not performing as you should more than worrying what others will think. It is often the case where you know that you have been aweful, yet people still come up to you later and tell you how wonderful you were...how false! Having said that I have said that to people I care about too....hypocritical me!
Ah, yes, but the majority of stage fright people have isnt letting yourself down, but being afraid of making a fool out of yourself. Yes, there are people that just dont like putting themselves in a position of not doing well enough, but thats not what I was talking about.
LiveForTheLaunch said:
Ah, well, I can say I don't care about what people think about me, because I don't care. If they don't like me for me, too bad, they can piss off, although it does get me mad when people say lies and stuff. I guess I can say rarely because sometimes it hurts to have people say stuff about you but it wont affect my life. I just hate it when people make fun of the way I look.
Exactly, it doesnt feel good at all, but its not like your life revolves around it, right? Im not saying that anyone here gets hung up about what someone else says, im simply saying that the chances of you truely not caring one bit at all is very low. The odds are that most everyone here has felt like crap recently (in the past year, perhaps?) because someone said something to them that upset them. Now, to what degree they got upset depends on the person, but you are not all perfect in not caring what others think.
kir said:
Well you would only tell your boss or teacher to shove it if you didn't agree with something they did/said, or if you don't like them. And if you don't like them then you don't care what they think about you. Well, at least that's how my cookie crumbles.
If you dont like them or dont agree with what they said, but they are your only way to pass high school or college, or be able to pay your bills, you are sure as hell going to keep your mouth shut. Anyone who doesnt, in my opinion, is just asking to get screwed. If you want to keep your apartment and your elecricity, at your job you dont cuss your boss out.
kir said:
I think you yourself are assuming when you say that the people on here who say they don't care what people think about them are lying.
Lets think about how human beings work, shall we? First, lets compare ourselves to other species, since we are all just animals, like them, except we have the ability to use reason and think more than all other creatures on this planet, that we know of. For apes and monkeys, they usually travel in groups, correct? What happens when one is abandoned from that group? That one ape or monkey doesnt feel too good, now does s/he? They want to please the group in order to survive. Who says this cannot be applied to us? Dont give me any 'we are better than the animals because we are more civil' crap, because we arent, we just are smarter. Next, lets look at early human tribes. They also lived in groups, in order to survive, and looked to please the group in order to survive and eat. They worked together in order to reach a goal, whether that be hunting a deer or building a hut or whatever it may be. It was in their nature to stick together and do things as a group, since if they were by themselves they were much more prone to being killed by other animals. It was a defense tatic. Next, when you were younger, were you ever not allowed in a certain group? Like in your early school years or anything? I was a couple times, and from what I remember I felt pretty crappy afterwards. Doesnt this show that that instict to be close to others is still in our minds to this day? It may not be an issue of life or death anymore, but it is still there. Finally, during your teenage years in high school (I forgot what its called in the UK, here its years 9 to 12), in the begining why does it seem so awkward? Because you are growing up and are still trying to find yourself and the people that you feel comfortable with. You are insecure of yourself, and want to find a group of kids that accept you for who you are, and when you think you found that group, but they treat you like crap, then you feel like crap, and continue looking. Usually when you finally find that group that you feel you 'belong' to, that awkwardness is pretty much gone. Freshman seem a lot more awkward than seniors do, maybe that has something to do with it...? So, through my logic, I didnt assume anything at all.
My logic probably confused quite a bit of you, but its hard to put into words my reasoning, so I apologize in advance. I always have trouble trying to have others understand what im trying to say when it comes to things like this.
