Dollywood | Big Bear Mountain | Vekoma Family Launched Coaster | 2023
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CrashCoaster
CF Legend
Does Lightning Rod have its zero cars back yet?
Kw6sTheater
Hyper Poster
Not sure. I miss them though.
Hear, hear.
Get the ****ing thing running reliably first. Sort out the extra details later.
Pear
Strata Poster
Nope I finally managed to ride it yesterday and both trains had no zero car.
In other news front row without a zero car is ****ing fantastic!
Coaster Chall YouTube
Hyper Poster
Back to Mountain Sidewinder site, I can see a Helix type layout, especially with an inclining launch and many elements around the terrain.
Hopefully, I wanna see a massive dark ride as a Wildwood Grove Phase 2 rather than a coaster, just because I think a dark ride (like Underlandet in 2020 at Liseberg...but Sally Co-operation) in Wildwood Grove (in a new themed show building in that back area unused) is better cause a Mack Multi Launch works better on the Mountain Sidewinder site and its terrain.
Hopefully, I wanna see a massive dark ride as a Wildwood Grove Phase 2 rather than a coaster, just because I think a dark ride (like Underlandet in 2020 at Liseberg...but Sally Co-operation) in Wildwood Grove (in a new themed show building in that back area unused) is better cause a Mack Multi Launch works better on the Mountain Sidewinder site and its terrain.
Kw6sTheater
Hyper Poster
CrashCoaster
CF Legend
Isn't this what SDC did? The options being Time Traveller (which it was), or a B&M dive coaster? My only problem with a B&M hyper would it would basically be a less intense version of Lightning Rod. Whereas the likes of a Mack Rides hyper coaster would be totally different.
I second @Kw6sTheater. Where's your source?
Crazycoaster
Giga Poster
Wait.. what?? How in any way would a B&M hyper be in anyway like Lightning Rod, a hybrid wooden launched coaster? Because of airtime? You make some weird statements sometimes..
CrashCoaster
CF Legend
Read my post again. I said it would be like a LESS INTENSE version of Lightning Rod. They both provide airtime. They both provide height and speed. They both have many twists, turns, and no inversions. So yes, they are similar in some aspects. I never once mentioned anything about the launch or building material.
Crazycoaster
Giga Poster
I read your post just fine, it’s still dumb. You could compare any other two coasters that don’t invert in the exact same way. By your logic, you could say that Thunderhead is just a less intense version of lightning rod too. So should they get rid of that?
Matt N
CF Legend
I think the logic behind adding a B&M hyper would be that some non-enthusiasts (and enthusiasts) might find Lightning Rod a little too intense, so the hyper would provide something that would have a slightly wider appeal than Lightning Rod. Also, the hyper would likely place a great emphasis on height, which Dollywood does not really have at the moment (even though Wild Eagle and Lightning Rod are both allegedly 200ft tall, I wouldn't say height is really the main aim of either of them).
Anyway, I'd personally like the hyper most out of those options. Mako is fantastic, so I don't see why a B&M hyper wouldn't fit well into Dollywood. Also, the park already has two launch coasters (both of which were built relatively recently), so it would arguably be slightly more unique for Dollywood than a Mack XTREME Spinning Coaster would be.
Anyway, I'd personally like the hyper most out of those options. Mako is fantastic, so I don't see why a B&M hyper wouldn't fit well into Dollywood. Also, the park already has two launch coasters (both of which were built relatively recently), so it would arguably be slightly more unique for Dollywood than a Mack XTREME Spinning Coaster would be.
Kw6sTheater
Hyper Poster
For how they're going to fit a hyper into Mountain Slidewinder's plot - my idea is that Dollywood could have a queue & station in that area and then have a layout that races over Mystery Mine to Wildwood Grove's perimeter and returns back down the hillside.
tomahawk
Strata Poster
I keep thinking I keep reading the stupidest thing I've read on these boards, and then you have to go and obliterate it. Last I checked, a hyper doesnt have wave turns, launches, or a mother ****ing quad down. There is nothing similar in the experience. At. ****ing. All.
And Matt, nobody is complaining about LRod intensity. Hyper would be a completely unique experience in that park. There would be zero comparison.
Only thing better than a hyper would be a star flyer for the views. Views for ****ing days.
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Matt N
CF Legend
What I meant is that I've heard some people say that they find Lightning Rod and other RMCs slightly hard to reride due to the sheer strength of airtime and rapid fluctuation in g-forces, if you get what I mean.
In my personal opinion, a B&M hyper would definitely be different enough from Lightning Rod to coexist alongside it. While I haven't ridden any RMCs, I would presume the airtime sensation provided by something like Lightning Rod is quite different to the airtime sensation provided on a B&M hyper; when I rode Mako, for example, that ride provided strong, sustained airtime that had you out of your seat for a good couple of seconds, whereas I'd imagine that the airtime on an RMC is a lot more abrupt and comes at you in many different directions (e.g. sideways, even inverted in some cases). Add in the fact that Lightning Rod is wooden and launched, so is naturally going to feel quite different to a gravity-fed steel coaster from B&M anyway, and you have two rather different experiences. If the ride being surveyed for was an Intamin hyper akin to the one being built at Walibi Belgium, for example, I could see your concern to an extent, as many of Intamin's newer coasters do have quite a bit of RMC influence within them. But the coaster being surveyed for shows multiple photos of B&M hypers, so I'd presume the experience would be completely different.
Also, many parks have B&M hypers coexisting alongside extreme wooden coasters like Lightning Rod. Look at Six Flags Great Adventure, for example; they have El Toro and Nitro in the same park. And Six Flags Great America has Raging Bull and Goliath in the same park, although admittedly Raging Bull doesn't really focus on airtime as much as other hypers.
Coaster Chall YouTube
Hyper Poster
I think the Hyper Coaster option is great. As is the Spinning Coaster model. But honestly, the indoor coaster is the most underrated option cause there is a great opportunity for a backstory, masses of theming and many great track elements like track drops, side drops, etc. (like the Dynamic Attractions SFX Coaster)
I think something like Verbolten or Th13teen (track drop) is brilliant too!
I think something like Verbolten or Th13teen (track drop) is brilliant too!