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Energylandia's Future Additions

I'm guessing the mine train will just be the standard 785m model? Unless they do want to go for a custom model but it wouldn't surprise me if they got a clone.

I wonder if the tilt coaster will use the new track and train design, unlike Gravity Max.
 
CrashCoaster said:
I'm guessing the mine train will just be the standard 785m model? Unless they do want to go for a custom model but it wouldn't surprise me if they got a clone.

I wonder if the tilt coaster will use the new track and train design, unlike Gravity Max.
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I'm definitely thinking that they'll go for the new gen track. I was always thinking they'll go for something like Th13teen or Verbolten in the future, cause the theming in the dragon area where Zadra will sit... There's potential there! They could retheme certain areas so it's themed areas, so that they have the most coasters and it's a themed park, not like SFMM where it's coasters... Hardly any theming
 
CrashCoaster said:
I'm guessing the mine train will just be the standard 785m model? Unless they do want to go for a custom model but it wouldn't surprise me if they got a clone.

I wonder if the tilt coaster will use the new track and train design, unlike Gravity Max.
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Mine Train (It will be located on the right from the entrance to the new zone with Zadra) will be longer, with three lift hills, I think something like Mine Train in Disneyland Paris ;) Those informations was in tenders.

Tilt will definitely be the new improved vekoma project (It will be located just behind Zadra, looking from the side of Mayan)

Shockwave will be located Just above the mine train looking from the entrance to the new zone.
 
pawel98123 said:
Mine Train (It will be located on the right from the entrance to the new zone with Zadra) will be longer, with three lift hills, I think something like Mine Train in Disneyland Paris ;) Those informations was in tenders.

Tilt will definitely be the new improved vekoma project (It will be located just behind Zadra, looking from the side of Mayan)

Shockwave will be located Just above the mine train looking from the entrance to the new zone.
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Do we know any more coasters in the work besides those?

RCDB claims the new coaster will be a Firestorm, so it will be interesting to see what gets built. When is the tilt/mine train meant to open?
 
CrashCoaster said:
Do we know any more coasters in the work besides those?

RCDB claims the new coaster will be a Firestorm, so it will be interesting to see what gets built. When is the tilt/mine train meant to open?
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Like I said earlier, Mine Train and Shockwave + should open in 2020 (Visualizations of Shockwave are on previous pages). Tilt - don't know yet but propably in 2021.

When it comes to other coasters, there are plans for many of them : wing coaster, flying coaster, motor bike coaster and who knows what else ;)
 
I mean, Energylandia's checklist of coasters-to-get is narrowing. But since the quality of their choices is improving, I could realistically see them investing in (or at least seriously exploring):
Wing coaster / 4D (or both let's face it)
Flyer (likely Vekoma)
Mack Big Dipper
Swing launch coaster
Gerst Bobsled
Traditional wood
Dive machine
.. basically, anything.


Does anyone know if there was any mention of the dark ride in the Dragon Zone from the park's owner? Photos don't show much space for one to go in nicely and I'm still concerned it's been scrapped..
 
JoshC. said:
Does anyone know if there was any mention of the dark ride in the Dragon Zone from the park's owner? Photos don't show much space for one to go in nicely and I'm still concerned it's been scrapped..
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Dark Ride turned out to be more expensive than thought at the beginning so its premiere was postponed. So it is not scraped , in fact the Dark Ride hall is already standing ;)
 
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Render from Vekoma's IG. This is Shockwave+ with its theme.
 
Yeah, please don't double post stuff like this.

This thread is for the more general future updates, but as soon as we have a thread for a specific ride, let's keep the relevant discussion there. :)
 
I do wonder sometimes if this place is actually legit and above board. I mean, where's all the money coming from? Does Energylandia even have the attendance figures to warrant such rapid expansion? Ok so we hear stories about it being partially funded by the EU, but... really?? Investing in massive roller coasters year after year is not something the EU government is particularly well known for, and even if it was, why are they pumping all that cash into one park when Legendia down the road gets f*** all? If the idea was to boost tourism to Poland in general, surely it would make more sense to distribute funds across a whole range of tourist attractions. Seriously, if I was the owner of Legendia, I'd be absolutely fuming right about now!
And this guy that owns Energylandia, what's his story, huh? You all saw the picture of him, riding Zadra with his family shortly after completion, but who the hell is he? I read somewhere that he has a string of successful... what was it? Casinos? Shopping centres? Something like that anyway, all across southern Poland. If that's the case, and this guy is successful enough to build a theme park off the back of it, why is he the one getting all the additional funding?
It just doesn't stack up somehow. Something isn't right.
It seems to me like this guy has decided to build his own giant playground in his backyard, lets his kids tell him what coasters to buy next based on what's trending on Twitter that day, and then somehow gets the EU to pay for it.
Either that or the whole thing is just one big money laundering operation.

I can't be the only one who smells a rat?

But yeah, still plan on visiting soon. :)
 
I'm sure one of the Polish members can explain it better than I can, but my understanding is...

-The owners are the Goczal family, who own nightclubs (Energy2000), as well footwear and energy drink things. They're good business people and know how to make money. They'd been considering a park since the early 2010s, and had taken inspiration from parks like Gardaland. Being Polish, they were also aware of how to make locals buy into the concept; something which other attempts at parks had failed at due to them being foreign investors.

-The EU have helped fund it because they have been able to successfully argue that the area needed a tourist boost, or risk locals not having jobs, etc. Legendia can't argue that as much because they are located in a city centre, are a much older theme park and the local area has many other means of employing people and attracting people. I also think that the area around Legendia received attention earlier from the government and EU to transform it away from the mining district it used to be.

One thing I noticed in particularly during my visit to both parks was that staff at Energylandia didn't seem as comfortable speaking English; only knowing key phrases and the like. Legendia staff were much better and felt like they 'knew' English, rather than just key words. That partially gave me a vibe that the area around Legendia was slightly better off and in less need of EU funds.

I'm pretty sure Legendia has applied for some EU support at the very least (and maybe did get something?), but yes, nowhere near the levels Energylandia got.

As for attendance, I think they topped 1m for the first time in 2017, and hit 1.4m million last year. For a park that was only in its 5th year of operation, that's brilliant tbh. They'll continue to grow as they build more stuff and I don't see why they couldn't start reaching Gardaland levels (2.5-3million) within the next few years.

It's fair to raise eyebrows I think given the speed of the developments, but I'm sure everything is above board. Just what happens when you get a clever businessman with lots of money and dedication I guess!
 
Howie said:
I do wonder sometimes if this place is actually legit and above board. I mean, where's all the money coming from? Does Energylandia even have the attendance figures to warrant such rapid expansion? Ok so we hear stories about it being partially funded by the EU, but... really?? Investing in massive roller coasters year after year is not something the EU government is particularly well known for, and even if it was, why are they pumping all that cash into one park when Legendia down the road gets f*** all? If the idea was to boost tourism to Poland in general, surely it would make more sense to distribute funds across a whole range of tourist attractions. Seriously, if I was the owner of Legendia, I'd be absolutely fuming right about now!
And this guy that owns Energylandia, what's his story, huh? You all saw the picture of him, riding Zadra with his family shortly after completion, but who the hell is he? I read somewhere that he has a string of successful... what was it? Casinos? Shopping centres? Something like that anyway, all across southern Poland. If that's the case, and this guy is successful enough to build a theme park off the back of it, why is he the one getting all the additional funding?
It just doesn't stack up somehow. Something isn't right.
It seems to me like this guy has decided to build his own giant playground in his backyard, lets his kids tell him what coasters to buy next based on what's trending on Twitter that day, and then somehow gets the EU to pay for it.
Either that or the whole thing is just one big money laundering operation.

I can't be the only one who smells a rat?

But yeah, still plan on visiting soon. :)
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Ok lets start... Yes big part of the money comes from EU, no that's not like that they (the Union) paying for coasters. In Poland if you want to, you can submit an application for funding, you can do this for your company to develop ;) And if Legendia would like to do this they could (although, I don't know, because the owner is not from Poland...). Energylandia have many patents for their coasters, for example for new wheels, for "vibrations absorber", even for storage box under the passenger seat in a rollercoaster. I assume they have those patents to submit applications easier.

Your next question, "who is he". He is an owner of clubs "Energy 2000", most known and I think the biggest clubs in Poland.

He was in Mirabilandia with his family one time and his son asked him "why in Poland there is no such parks like this ?" And that's how it started, Marek Goczał (owner of Energylandia) started to planning and building the park, year after year he noticed that there is huge demand for amusement park in Poland (because Polish people doesn't know rollercoasters, there were not many of them here) so he started expanding and changing plans. And that's why there is now Hyperion, Zadra and more to come.
 
Mr. Goczal is a RC freak and he actually mentioned in an interview that they will need to slow down a little bit with the new RC and add more family friendly attractions in the future. First plans for Wooden Coaster were abandoned because of the costs but when Vekoma signed a deal with RMC and introduced their IBox Hybrid Coaster they decided to do it. Much lower Maintenance costs were the main factor for this investment.

They had over 1.5 milion visitors last year and they'll probably have even more this year. I was there yesterday and it was packed.
I think the biggest reason why this project worked was the scaling of the project. They started with many small attractions and people came to the park. Revenue showed up so they could start adding new attracions. With each new attraction the attendance in the park was spiking up and they had more money to build new stuff.

It also explains why the park is so weirdly build so far. The new part with Zadra is actually first stage of the more professional version of the park. When they'll finish their the expansion, current park will probably get huge reconstruction.

Also a reason why Legendia is so far failing to compete with Energylandia is because beside Lech Coaster they have nothing else that would bring people there. They wanted to have great themes with old stuff and Energylandia went with new stuff and then we will add theming.
 
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