I do love how people immediately get their hackles raised by the mention of Apple
Exactly. Apple phones are fine for people who don't care - say older relatives who are complete technophobes, but for anyone with an ounce of interest in personalising their user experience then Apple phones are very limited. Add onto that the lower price tag for Android and the wide choice in handsets, and the fact that almost all Apps are free and it's a no-brainier.
The thing is, only a tiny proportion of people want to personalise things. Most people want a phone that is familiar and just works. They want to feel comfort in quality (whether real or perceived). This is why, in a company of 200 technical people, most of them use iPhones. They just do the job they are meant to do. I'm unusual having Android.
Apps are free, basically because they are filled with adverts instead. There's a general "thing". People who are willing to spend £800 on an iPhone are likely to spend £3 on an app. People who spend £100 on an Android phone are unlikely to spend £3 on an app, but will put up with ads. There was actually a study done about this many years ago.
The problem with the ads is that there's no control over them. So it's easier for malicious people to spike a phone through an ad. Look at anyone's Android phone or tablet (where they don't really understand technology) and you'll find it riddled with installed apps they have no idea where they came from.
I've had this experience at both home and work. It's so easy to end up with crap on an Android phone due to the "free" apps.
I'm not saying this is anyone here, it's likely that the tech savvy people who frequent these forums know how to avoid these things, but so many people don't. I see it all the time on Android phones and tablets - the same millions who make up botnets due to malware on their PCs
Obviously that's your opinion and I hold the opposite view. Maybe iOS has come a long way but it was always waaaay more cluncky - not being able to operate several apps at once - not being able to operate as a phone and a sat nav and six other things all at once which is an absolute necessity for me and standard with Android.
I agree about iOS interface, but on the scale of good to bad, Samsung is on the Apple side of the bad line, not the stock Android side of the good line. I've been using stock Android for maybe 6 or 7 years now. Whenever I use a Samsung device, it's like stepping back in time. Samsung and Apple are incredibly similar in the way they sell their devices. Similar price brackets for "prime" models and keeping the interface familiar to tie people into the product. You tend to find that people who have used Samsung as their primary device stick with Samsung in the same kind of fervent manner Apple fans do. Two sides of the same coin
Sorry, I love doing this. I'll bet you're now behaving the same way now that you think Apple users behave when you call them a sheeple or something. Defending your opinion through a sea of red mist. People get tribal about products and I don't understand it. Yes, I'm being rude now - but not seriously Sue - just making a point
I think Android is better, I use Android, but I understand why people pick Apple. Yet you're still having essentially a tirade against my views because I don't agree with you that Samsung are any good. That seems to put me in "The Apple camp" and I should be derided because of it.
In my opinion, Samsung produce some excellent hardware. They produce an excellent range of phones across all budgets, bringing great technology to huge numbers of people. I think that their interface is poor compared to stock Android. It's not the worst Android interface though by a long way. What I have found though is that Samsung and Apple are parallels. So they should be, both are market leaders in the same market and it's all about capturing customer loyalty.
Disagree. You get way more functionality in an Android (and I think you were agreeing in the first quote)
You do and Android is always well ahead in technical terms. However, a £100 Samsung J phone is NOT equivalent to a £500 iPhone. This is where you get what you pay for. Android is split into two markets, budget and premium.
You do get more for your money with the premium products, but they tend to be close to the cost of an iPhone. Because iOS is designed specifically for their hardware, you get better stability and performance though on the mid-range (older models) than the low end premium phones (Like my Xperia Z5) (say around the £300-£400 market). You also tend to get similar tech at that level. Budget phones? You pay your money and take your chance.
I've never lost a phone to water damage (I dropped my last Samsung Galaxy Note in the bath and it dried out and was working again within a day). If I can manage it, the rest of the population bloody well can.
My new Note isn't waterproof but it is only 5mm thick and very nice to hold. But that's just my opinion.
This is it, it is opinion on this. I'm on my fourth or fifth fully sealed Android device. The first two (Google Nexus phones) didn't have SD card slots either. It never bothered me and it allowed the designers to produce low cost, thin, high quality devices. I never felt like I needed to replace the battery or increase the storage. It's horses for courses on this front, but my Nexus 5 is now 5 years old and still going strong (MMF has it). Like personalisation, it only affects a tiny number of consumers so isn't really an issue.
Maybe, but in my mind, it should also make things cheaper. So what are you actually paying for with Apple?
The name
Also a seal of quality and the knowledge that when you get your new phone, it will work exactly like the old one - you can pretty much pick up where you left off with it.
The name. And that pisses me off.
Why? People are allowed to have a different preference. If you gave all iPhone users a Samsung Galaxy S7 for free, most of them would hate it - even if you gave it Apple branding. People are tied to the technology. I will never buy an iPhone because I hate the interface and don't like the fact you pay over the odds for a device compared to what you could get from another manufacturer. That doesn't mean that people who buy Apple are in some way wrong in their opinion that they dislike Android interfaces. It's nice to have the choice
EDIT: Just noticed the suggestion Android users are poor. I could afford an iPhone, it all depends on your priorities in life.
The first, don't be silly/rude. Lots of people choose Andorid because they love to play around with how their phone looks, works and performs.
I wasn't! I was saying that if you like to personalise your phone, add in different apps to make it just right for them, put things on memory cards, basically, people who fiddle with their stuff to get them just right. Android will always appeal to those people. Then (separately), people who want a smart phone but don't have a lot of cash to splash. The two aren't mutually exclusive, but I absolutely wasn't saying you only buy Android if you're poor.
