Greatest F1 driver ever
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LiveForTheLaunch
CF Legend
None because car racing is whackkk.
And if they died then how did that make them good car drivers?
And if they died then how did that make them good car drivers?
LiveForTheLaunch
CF Legend
^ I've watched car races, and I don't even like them. Drag racing is pretty cool, but only if you watch it live, not on the television.
I know. But, if they were in fires, they must have crashed first.
I know. But, if they were in fires, they must have crashed first.
Smithy
Strata Poster
LiveForTheLaunch said:
Do you actually have a functioning brain?
Or did it seep out in dribs and drabs through the numerous holes in your head?
Ever think that some of them may have crashed due to a car failure that was not their fault, rather than a crash that was their fault?
****ing hell, I wouldn't even dare call that ignorance, it's just sheer stupidity.
Oh, and for my money, I'd go with Senna or Prost.
LiveForTheLaunch
CF Legend
^ Well in that case, fine, but what are the chances of the cars malfunctioning like everytime a good racer died?
Senna 100% no one else is even close. People forget that Senna was not in F1 that long and it took people far more races to break some of his records. Senna put cars on pole that had no reason to be there, he also won races where team mates could finish no higher than 8th. He was fast, good at blocking and a great over taker. He also done so much for people in Brazil. Yes people remember Japan 1990 but he got the blame for Japan 1989 where he done nothing wrong.
Taylor, in car racing if something fails on a car it can go straight on into a wall at 200mph. Most of the time a driver will survive but in some cases like Senna something happens that kills them. Senna did not die directly due to the crash impact, there were no broken bones. He died as part of the car went through his visor and through his head. Ok the crash killed him but had the wheel gone the other way he would have been ok. I have seen worst crashes than the one Senna had put it that way. MS had a crash at high speed but did not hit a wall straight away and he only broke his leg, this was due to brake failure. Roland died due to a front wing problem, he hit the wall and also died as his car got ripped open.
Taylor, in car racing if something fails on a car it can go straight on into a wall at 200mph. Most of the time a driver will survive but in some cases like Senna something happens that kills them. Senna did not die directly due to the crash impact, there were no broken bones. He died as part of the car went through his visor and through his head. Ok the crash killed him but had the wheel gone the other way he would have been ok. I have seen worst crashes than the one Senna had put it that way. MS had a crash at high speed but did not hit a wall straight away and he only broke his leg, this was due to brake failure. Roland died due to a front wing problem, he hit the wall and also died as his car got ripped open.
Stone Cold
Mega Poster
LiveForTheLaunch said:
Car racing is controlled by the Ku Klux Klan? Wow, any more National Enquiry headlines I should know about? Perhaps the one about Michael Jackson was not a good entertainer as he is now dead.
Anyway, since you mentioned it, I did a bit of research to find out when the last time a Formula 1 driver died not as a result of mechanical failure. It was 27 years ago. And since you mention it, the deceased, Ricardo Paletti, was only starting his second race when the incident occured.
To answer the question as originally answered, Senna, mainly for the reasons Marc gave but also because he was the last formula 1 driver with any real personality.
LiveForTheLaunch
CF Legend
Actually I just took the time to look up the two crashes (Clark and Senna or whatever) on Wikipedia and it sounds like they were pretty good racers aside from when they got killed. Would low tire pressures be the driver's fault for not checking it though?
Stone Cold
Mega Poster
"Aside from when they got killed". Haven't you realised yet that us F1 fans are trying to teach you that it wasn't the fault of these drivers that they were killed - hence they were good drivers, who were just in unfortunate situations.
As for checking tyre pressures - rather than question the knowledge of several long-term F1 fans, perhaps a bit more research would tell you that F1 drivers have a team of mechanics who service the cars, and that checking the tyres is not the responsibility of the driver. In any case, an F1 car is such a sophisticated piece of machinery that tyre pressure changes considerably over the course of a race, depending on the heat and wear in the tyres.
As for Senna, there is a theory that the tyres were not at operating pressure due to the safety car laps and that caused his car to bottom out over the bumps, but it is equally plausible that there was a steering column failure which prevented Senna from regaining control of the vehicle. In either case, the problem was eithe a design failure or a mechanical failure, thus out of the control of Senna.
As for checking tyre pressures - rather than question the knowledge of several long-term F1 fans, perhaps a bit more research would tell you that F1 drivers have a team of mechanics who service the cars, and that checking the tyres is not the responsibility of the driver. In any case, an F1 car is such a sophisticated piece of machinery that tyre pressure changes considerably over the course of a race, depending on the heat and wear in the tyres.
As for Senna, there is a theory that the tyres were not at operating pressure due to the safety car laps and that caused his car to bottom out over the bumps, but it is equally plausible that there was a steering column failure which prevented Senna from regaining control of the vehicle. In either case, the problem was eithe a design failure or a mechanical failure, thus out of the control of Senna.
Williams had cut and welded the steering column at the beginning of the weekend so that he could fit in the car better. The reason he went off was due to the tyre pressures being low and the car bottoming out. The reason he was killed was due to the steering column not being as strong when he hit the wall and it broke.Stone Cold said:
He was the best driver ever. The end. Shame he didn't get to really show Michael how it was done.
