And taking a random posters idea for the ride is considered a better source? Nothing that has been shown has said to me "This is a I305 mini-clone inta-hyper". I agree that it is being done by Intamin, but I don't believe it to be a god awful rip-off of a ride that, for the most part, had a huge error that basically **** it over for an entire season and the only people that got a decent ride were the media day folk. NOW, lets look at this blue print closer. If it is going to be using the same style lift as I305, then the drop will most likely have to be beyond a 90 degree angle just so that it has enough time to smooth out before going into that really tight turn, unless they do a mix of a straight drop into a swooping, downward turn, like this:
This, people, is the closest type of drop you would get on that ride that people want since they all seem to claim it will have the same style drop on I305. Only problem is that no matter how [b]I[/b] put it, it seems to always have an issue with going into the red quite easily either on the Vertical G's (lowest i saw pulled was a nasty spike around 6) and the lats were just as bad if not worse.[/quote]
My guess would still be a drop similar to I305 but with a shorter turn to counteract the issues they have had with I305...
Are you sure you got the scales right??
[quote="Intricks"]Sorry people, but to those that are saying its to have an Expedition Geforce type drop, then all those planned footers on the side wouldn't exist, so that gets rid from the equation. Next, to those that are saying that the two boxes on the supposed lift hill are proof that we are looking at an I305 style lift hill, I don't agree with that due to the fact that those boxes alone could represent housing for certain equipment. Also, the first box wouldn't be directly out of the station, looking at I305, the box would have to be halfway up the lift (which the box is directly outside the station in the plans) and the end of the lift, which is true with both. Only a single footer was needed between the first box and the station, you don't see that in the plans, thus they could be in reference to something else entirely.[/quote]
If those are foundations for buildings, where would the track go?? Also both of them have 2 clearly defined squares on them which would hint where the steel would actually attach to the foundations them selves. Also the supports that are on site are clearly the same model as the one on the I305 lift. The lift is probably pretty steep which could hint why it is where it is, it could also mean that Intamin have done some modifications to the design so that the top of the lift will be "un-supported" for a longer stretch, maybe they have even moved the bottom support further down the drop as well, which could explain your inability to create a good curve out of the drop...
I put the EGF one to rest long ago, after the blue-print surfaced...
Also I'm pretty sure the blue-print is correct since footers in the real world corresponds to them shown in that file...
[quote="Intricks"]Back to the whole "the magnetism formula given could be in reference to the brakes" bit. I'm sorry, but even the title of the first study (Latent Compulsion Ceramics Suggest Nano-Scale Propulsion Dynamics) give way to the side something different. First paragraph goes on about how certain clay has properties that give off magnetic propulsion when charged to polarity (found in 2004, ironically, the year Storm Runner opened). Second paragraph though, goes on to mention how the clay in the creek there has the ability to absorb high rates of propulsion. Propulsion means being forced in a certain direction, not pulled, correct? Sorry, that alone gets rid of the lift cable needed to pull the train in a certain direction. Second study really doesn't have much to give, but it does have the mention of high-speed rail transportation. Doesn't the Bullet Trains mainly use magnetic levitation to move super freaking fast? Third study just basically talks about how space craft is slowed down using a spider-fiber web or something (basically, the breaking system for the ride. New technology).[/quote]
First of all Screamscape got news of that states that it wasn't a formula but a word to search for on the page which gave a file with a code to a picture of a location where an envelope with two entrance tickets were...
Also I think that anything posted on that site should be taken with a pinch of salt, first of all some of it is way to outlandish, and if they have really made some great scientific innovations due to the clay or whatever you would probably have heard about it some time ago from some scientific paper or similar. That whole site is a spoof created to make a stir among coaster enthusiasts (like yourself) and play games with them, just like the one they created before they announced Fahrenheit...
[quote="Intricks"]So, I'm sorry people in this forum post, but I believe this will be a new form of launch coaster design (it could very well only be made possible by using the I305 track style to sustain more forces than normal) and not an Intamin Hyper like you all so dearly want. Please, I BEG YOU, show me some form of substantial proof (and not **** heresay from an ex-park employee or somebody that knows somebody who WORKED at Hershey and got fired, they wouldn't tell basic employees **** about this ride unless it involved telling them "Here is where you will be working from now on due to a new ride being built") that I am wrong.
Also, Loefet, did somebody from the park offices go against their Silence pact and speak out about the ride or was this just a general poll of the masses that only want a form of I305 because it's the newest thing done by Intamin?[/quote]
I still think that you are wrong about the launch coaster, it's more likely that they add a mega/giga one since that would fit their line-up a lot better than a launch coaster will since they already got Storm Runner. The main reason why Intamin created this track system were to make rides cheaper, due to the reduction in the amount of supports needed since the track is so strong it's capable to span longer distances. And no I don't know anyone that is associated or working at Hershey park (how could I, I live in Sweden and never been in to either Hershey or North America...), I just have a cunning ability to make realistic guesses/estimations based on facts presented before me...
[quote="Intricks"][Note though, that I am keeping an open mind on this entire project, but I need something from either of the websites to basically prove something isn't what I believe to be or for the official word from Hershey. No hopes at all for the ride either cause I live a very pessimistic attitude filled persona so that if it doesn't go as i had thought, im not disappointed][/quote]
You are keeping an opened mind?? Pure ****!! if so they you would have accepted our views as a possibility for this ride. Who knows you could be in the employee of Hershey that makes all this fuss about this to keep us on arms length of the truth (which also happened before Fahrenheit).
I just say that we all should wait until Hershey makes the final announcement an we will see who is right...
Edit: Just looked at the official PDF document for a giga coaster that has a sideview blueprint for I305. They showed the entire lift without the boxes, yet showed MF's side layout with its specially designed supports for the lift. Not sure if it's related or not, take it as is.[/quote]
I'm guessing that you are talking about the one posted on the Intamin web-page? If so then you could also notice that the one you are thinking is the I305, clearly have a different layout all together and is something that they engineers of Intamin have drawn up to show a different layout, and based on similar drawings then the "supports" shown are actually height markers and something to make the position of the track visible on the grid below...
. If i saw something like expedition geforce than i would be absolutely thrilled!!!!!
