Intimidators: Timmy and 305
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SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
I liked it a lot. I also liked Apollo and Goliath a lot, but the roughness really bothers me. It makes my head hurt. I don't remember Silver Star being rattly (but it was craptacular), yet every mega I've ridden here (bar Timmy, because it's new) is rough as ****. Especially Nitro. Jesus Nitro was rough.
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So has any one actually ridden both?
Intimidator Carowinds is a truly amazing ride that may well become a top ten ride in the world. This is coming from personal experience as a rode it last week.
Intimidator Carowinds is a truly amazing ride that may well become a top ten ride in the world. This is coming from personal experience as a rode it last week.
CreditCrazy
Hyper Poster
Joey said:
I agree with this (on Apollo and Nitro). I wouldn't call it rough, but they rattle a ton at the bottom of the drops. It's really annoying. Even Diamondback did it and I rode it only a couple months after it opened last year.
I have yet to ride Intimidator, but I rode Intimidator 305 on 6/20 and 6/22 (only a couple days before the new restraints) and it was disappointing tbh. The drop was really good, even with the trims (or are they gone now...? I couldn't even tell) and the speed of the ride is just incredible, but the restraints were pretty bad on those transitions. Wish I could've tried the new ones as they've supposedly completely improved any headbanging.
There's really no air on the ride. You go over the third hill with quite a bit of speed, but by that time of the ride, the restraint had (I'm not sure if the new restraints do this) already completely stapled you... So you don't move. This was the main problem of the ride for me; getting crushed by the restraints.
I rank it towards the bottom of my Top 10, which is still good. I do like the ride. It's an interesting coaster. I always found myself coming back over to that side of the park for more rides. Never got old.
madhjsp
Giga Poster
Just rode I305 today for the first time post-trimming. I managed to get 5 rides, in mostly different seats.
The good news: It still delivers a lot of positive G's throughout the layout, and the original trim on the airtime hill near the end is now gone. I didn't black out once today, whereas last time I rode it (pre-trim), I blacked out on that first turn every time. Also, the new shoulder-strap restraints are worlds better than the OTSRs it came installed with. They're pretty comfortable and there's no neck-chopping whatsoever, which is probably also partly due to the fact that the transitions are now taken at a slightly slower pace.
The bad news: The first drop is ruined. Pre-trim, the combination of height, steepness, and the speed going into it from the cable lift made it the best drop I've ridden, bar none. Just ridiculous ejector for all 300 feet of it. Now, it's fairly tame. You can feel the trim grab pretty noticeably, and according to RCDB, it lowers the ride's top speed from 94 mph down to around 80 mph... pretty significant. The negative G's on the second hill are still there, but it's definitely floater now, not ejector. Still some good pops of airtime around the twists and on the camel humps, though.
The verdict: It's still a very intense ride and it's still a lot of fun, start to finish. It does suck that they had to mess up such a fantastic drop, but on the whole, I think this trimming had to be done in order to make the ride more acceptable to more people. If it keeps ridership relatively high and keeps the ride around longer, then I'm for it.
The good news: It still delivers a lot of positive G's throughout the layout, and the original trim on the airtime hill near the end is now gone. I didn't black out once today, whereas last time I rode it (pre-trim), I blacked out on that first turn every time. Also, the new shoulder-strap restraints are worlds better than the OTSRs it came installed with. They're pretty comfortable and there's no neck-chopping whatsoever, which is probably also partly due to the fact that the transitions are now taken at a slightly slower pace.
The bad news: The first drop is ruined. Pre-trim, the combination of height, steepness, and the speed going into it from the cable lift made it the best drop I've ridden, bar none. Just ridiculous ejector for all 300 feet of it. Now, it's fairly tame. You can feel the trim grab pretty noticeably, and according to RCDB, it lowers the ride's top speed from 94 mph down to around 80 mph... pretty significant. The negative G's on the second hill are still there, but it's definitely floater now, not ejector. Still some good pops of airtime around the twists and on the camel humps, though.
The verdict: It's still a very intense ride and it's still a lot of fun, start to finish. It does suck that they had to mess up such a fantastic drop, but on the whole, I think this trimming had to be done in order to make the ride more acceptable to more people. If it keeps ridership relatively high and keeps the ride around longer, then I'm for it.
I'm not so sure that's the reason. The park management was quite satisfied with the reaction to the coaster as it was, but it was burning through those wheels pretty damn fast. The first ones were completely shot in just over 2 weeks (16 days). They can't have a coaster that eats up expensive parts at that rate.madhjsp said:
SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
If guests were complaining about the discomfort of the black outs, trimming the main drop didn't solve the problem. It's most certainly to do with wheels because the ride is now also covered in sprinklers. You might even get splashed on the lift by them!
The first time I rode it, it didn't feel *as* trimmed. Whether they added more at some point or it's just me, I dunno.
The first part of the ride of the ride is so, so, so, so, so poor. The drop feels like that of a powered coaster and you get no sense of acceleration what-so-ever. So even if it is still very fast, which I don't doubt, you can't tell. You spend the turn and first hill concerned about your sight being non-existent (which is kinda cool the first time, but gets old quickly), so when you're close to the ground and thus should be able to get a sense of speed from passing objects, you can't.
The new restraints are awesome. The ride is really ace transitions at the end which whip more than Maverick's, but are now minus the discomfort.
I don't know if it's better than Millenium Force or not though. Because MF does a better job at being a Giga coaster - since the best part of it is it's insainly tall drop. But I305's last part is miles better than anything MF does.
The first time I rode it, it didn't feel *as* trimmed. Whether they added more at some point or it's just me, I dunno.
The first part of the ride of the ride is so, so, so, so, so poor. The drop feels like that of a powered coaster and you get no sense of acceleration what-so-ever. So even if it is still very fast, which I don't doubt, you can't tell. You spend the turn and first hill concerned about your sight being non-existent (which is kinda cool the first time, but gets old quickly), so when you're close to the ground and thus should be able to get a sense of speed from passing objects, you can't.
The new restraints are awesome. The ride is really ace transitions at the end which whip more than Maverick's, but are now minus the discomfort.
I don't know if it's better than Millenium Force or not though. Because MF does a better job at being a Giga coaster - since the best part of it is it's insainly tall drop. But I305's last part is miles better than anything MF does.
madhjsp
Giga Poster
Joey said:
This is true.. in fact you do get a little bit splashed by drops of water coming off the train as it starts the lift while you're waiting in line for the first or second row. The sprinklers are all inside the station, though... didn't notice any on the lift or the brake run.
But I do think that the reason for trimming the drop was twofold, with the purposes of reducing wheel wear and reducing blackout rates. The G's on big turn are now noticeably less heavy and I'm confident that most people are not blacking out on it so often anymore. To wit, I grayed out every time I rode it in May, but yesterday I rode it 5 times without graying out once.
That's not to say the problem is gone, though. My younger brother, who at 6'3" is a good 3 or 4 inches taller than me, grayed out every time he rode. So taller people are out of luck, it seems.
Joey said:
This is also true. I personally say it's still better than Millennium Force even though the main drop is lackluster now, just because the rest of the ride is so, so good.
It's actually kind of nice that the rest of the ride is taken at a little slower pace now because the turns and G's are still very uniquely intense, but aren't quite so taxing anymore.
Finally got to ride it again today, only now with the trims & new restraints (of course). They killed the drop. Not the least bit of air time left & heavy braking that stucks the life out of it. I simply don't know how else to put it.
The first curve still gives that familar grey out, but by the time your vision returns to normal your creeping over the first hill. Again absolutely no air time - floater or otherwise.
Two good pops of air time are now at the end of the ride on the 2nd hill & the ensuing crest, but they in no way make up for the loss of that great ejector that used to be on the 1st hill.
The restraints are a beautiful thing & make the transactions a pleasure to experience. The sooner they put them suckers on Maverick the better & that baby will go up a spot in my top 10 for sure.
The first curve still gives that familar grey out, but by the time your vision returns to normal your creeping over the first hill. Again absolutely no air time - floater or otherwise.
Two good pops of air time are now at the end of the ride on the 2nd hill & the ensuing crest, but they in no way make up for the loss of that great ejector that used to be on the 1st hill.
The restraints are a beautiful thing & make the transactions a pleasure to experience. The sooner they put them suckers on Maverick the better & that baby will go up a spot in my top 10 for sure.
Antinos
Slut for Spinners
I honestly was not disappointed with 305 at all. The way people talked about the ride made it seem like it crawled(I mean CRAWLED) through the circuit. The trims are very noticeable, but you don't feel them until you're a ways down the drop. In the front, I didn't feel them until the steepest part of the ride and I got a bit of floater. In the back, I felt them sooner, but the last car was way over the crest before they were felt. I was up against the shoulder straps for a second or two before the trims bit.
The rest of the ride was intense, but graceful at the same time. There were plenty of positive G's and pops of air throughout the layout. I have to agree with Snoo: if the ride didn't have trims, it would probably be in my top three.
The rest of the ride was intense, but graceful at the same time. There were plenty of positive G's and pops of air throughout the layout. I have to agree with Snoo: if the ride didn't have trims, it would probably be in my top three.
LiveForTheLaunch
CF Legend
I305
Okay soooo, I'm quite upset I didn't get to ride it before the trims. I'm not gonna sit here and say the ride is bad, because it's but no means a bad ride, but just like Millennium Force, it looks a whole lot more impressive than it actually rides. I fully believe that it would be a top ten coaster before the trims, possibly even a top five, but I can't judge because I only rode it after they installed the trims (damnit). I can only imagine what the blackout would have been like without 'em, because the forces were still extremely significant, though as people are saying, the drop is just meh and the airtime is lacking. I have to say though, the second half of the layout was pretty nice.
I232
Ranks in the mid to lower half of all the B&M coasters of its type that I have been on. Probably in the bottom three, actually. The coasters are still good fun, but all I really have to say is that if you're building a coaster for airtime and airtime alone, you better do a damn good job of it, and they really didn't. In the back you get decent floater over some of the hills, but in the front it's only felt on the first few. Let's not even talk about the middle
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In the end though, I305 is better, though you can't really compare and they were both somewhat disappointing.
Okay soooo, I'm quite upset I didn't get to ride it before the trims. I'm not gonna sit here and say the ride is bad, because it's but no means a bad ride, but just like Millennium Force, it looks a whole lot more impressive than it actually rides. I fully believe that it would be a top ten coaster before the trims, possibly even a top five, but I can't judge because I only rode it after they installed the trims (damnit). I can only imagine what the blackout would have been like without 'em, because the forces were still extremely significant, though as people are saying, the drop is just meh and the airtime is lacking. I have to say though, the second half of the layout was pretty nice.
I232
Ranks in the mid to lower half of all the B&M coasters of its type that I have been on. Probably in the bottom three, actually. The coasters are still good fun, but all I really have to say is that if you're building a coaster for airtime and airtime alone, you better do a damn good job of it, and they really didn't. In the back you get decent floater over some of the hills, but in the front it's only felt on the first few. Let's not even talk about the middle
.In the end though, I305 is better, though you can't really compare and they were both somewhat disappointing.
If they both collapsed tomorrow, I wouldn't give a ****, frankly.
I305: Looks amazing, is really forceful, nice feeling of speed, but ultimately a very disappointing ride.
The other one: load of crap. I've only ridden three of this type so far, but it's WAY below the other two (Apollo's Chariot and Hollywood Dream).
I305: Looks amazing, is really forceful, nice feeling of speed, but ultimately a very disappointing ride.
The other one: load of crap. I've only ridden three of this type so far, but it's WAY below the other two (Apollo's Chariot and Hollywood Dream).
SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
You're all ****ing mental.
Carowinds' is awesome.
Go back to Wales Gavin and enjoy Megafail and some sheep.
Taylor.... Your opinion isn't valid anyway.
Carowinds' is awesome.
Go back to Wales Gavin and enjoy Megafail and some sheep.
Taylor.... Your opinion isn't valid anyway.
LiveForTheLaunch
CF Legend
Joey I'm gonna throw your bracelet string away after you said that .
But seriously, the one at Carowinds is not awesome. It might be cool to some, but maybe I'm greedy because I've been on Behemoth an Diamondback (though so have you right?). Then again, Gavin's count is much higher, he hasn't yet been on those two, and he still agrees. The airtime is a load of crap.
.But seriously, the one at Carowinds is not awesome. It might be cool to some, but maybe I'm greedy because I've been on Behemoth an Diamondback (though so have you right?). Then again, Gavin's count is much higher, he hasn't yet been on those two, and he still agrees. The airtime is a load of crap.
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Anonymous
Guest
Yes, most of the trim on I305's drop is now gone. There is still a small trim on the lower part of the drop. There's a good view of the drop from Tidal Wave Bay in the water park. I would estimate the trim is about 1/4 of the size it was.