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Osama Bin Laden - Found Dead?

Smithy

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All the US networks are reporting it, Obama is currently about to hold a press conference (4.10am UK time). Claims that he's been dead a week, killed by a bomb in Pakistan.

Personally, it's a HUGE scalp for the US, but nothing more, if anything will just create more animosity and anger against the US and ultimately more attacks.
 
There is also a higher threat level now in the U.S. or it will be announced very shortly. Seems as if they are expecting a retaliation strike(s). Interesting time with Obama ratings in the toilet, but that might just be a coincidence. (conspiracy!!!!)
 
Smithy said:
Personally, it's a HUGE scalp for the US, but nothing more, if anything will just create more animosity and anger against the US and ultimately more attacks.

That may be, but for now it's a huge boost to the morale of the American public. My facebook homepage is absolutely blowing up right now! Even 10 years later, justice is still justice.
 
^Yeah, mine too.

Some of the comments are quite hilarious. One says "I wish we somehow could revive him then kill him again. Then repeat the same process 2996 times."

I think it's a win for the USA. Although time will tell.
 
RCF said:
I'm skeptical. I have a gut feeling something's not right.

I'm with you on how long it's taken. But eh, anything like this can be hard to believe at first.

If anything, I'm indifferent. Sure, I'm happy we don't have to worry about him, but I'm not really too changed or unfeeling.

The speech Obama had was pretty awesome.
 
Meh. I doubt anything happens.. because nothing ever does happen.. especially because I live in the Midwest. Hurrah for not being a target!

But he's dead.. well yay.. I guess nothing will change because it's all just political BS to scare people.. etc etc.. all that jazz. I'm more scared of some moron mugging me or stealing my car then I am of terrorism.


Of course.. we all remember this day don't we?

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;)
 
Killing Obama won't solve the terror threat. Yeah, it's good news that the figurehead has been killed, but he was only one man. This isn't WWII where the death of Hitler meant the the end (yes, I know, Japan etc).

It took 10 years to get him. 10 years. It's pretty amazing that he evade capture/death from the worlds most advanced military for so long!

Cynical moment: That's Obama's re-election in the bag!

Forgetting everything else for a moment, what should really be celebrated is the swift, perfectly executed (excluding the helicopter crash) military operation carried out yesterday by the second best military commando unit in the world! A near flawless execution which Americans can be proud of.
 
Same views as me Ian, it changes nothing at all.

There will always be someone else to take over his work and now they will avenge his death, if anything maters are worse.

Will he death bring back the troops that have been killed looking for him?

Sorry but yes it is good he is dead, but does an old mans death change anything? NO.
 
Ian said:
This isn't WWII where the death of Hitler meant the the end (yes, I know, Japan etc).
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... no :p

Even on the Western Front, it wasn't Hitler's death that ended WWII, it was the Soviet's reaching Berlin, and subsequently taking control of the city, which in turn led to Hitler's suicide.

The Nazis had the leadership to continue the War if they had been in a position to do so, in fact Hitler by this point was doing much, much more harm than good in his military decisions (see: Russia). Why do you think he killed himself, because he knew they were screwed at this point... Hitler was nothing if he wasn't a bit batsh!t crazy and arrogant, he would never have given up if he didn't know they were defeated. Hitler knew they had lost by this point, so he killed himself. The defeat was in absolutely no way the result of him killing himself, and there's a fair few million dead Russians who would take umbrage to you saying so ;)

Anyway, yay, he's dead. Boo, we'll get bombed now <//3
 
Haha, Ben, there's no way that I'm going to argue with somebody studying WWII for their degree. I guess the comparison that I unclearly tried to make was the death of a figurehead does change the direction of these campaigns.
 
Ian said:
It took 10 years to get him. 10 years. It's pretty amazing that he evade capture/death from the worlds most advanced military for so long!

Well seeing as our advanced military trained him back in the 60's-70's it's not TOO hard to believe :p
 
What is worrying is that we've been sending millions of pounds to the country where he's been hiding just yards from one of their military compounds.

I don't think the mass celebrations in the US are entirely wise, but it is at least a momentary morale boost. All these effects, such as the boosting of the stock market, are only temporary. Soon it'll be like nothing's changed.

And do we really think they buried his body properly?
 
^Well yes, there are several serious points that come from this.

There's obviously the threat of retaliation. The US (and the rest of the countries fighting there too I guess) run the risk of getting complacent. Now I know they won't, the leaders aren't that stupid, but even civilians could get very relaxed about it. In reality this could actually be a worse time for security.

Next there's the obvious fact that whilst he's the leader, he's not making every decision and authorising every attack. It's like the President, he will authorise some of the bigger missions, but daily deployments and missions are likely to be planned and run by people much lower down the ranks. I think the same is true with Al Qaeda. The other problem is that his post will soon be filled. The leader of an organisation like that mostly acts as a figure-head, a symbol of the organisation. I don't think much will actually change.

Then there's the issue of where he actually was hiding. It does seem a little odd, but I don't really have much of an opinion on it to be honest. As for burying him, I'm kinda of the opinion that the troops/countries that have the body will actually bury him properly. It's quite a thing to be able to treat your enemy respectfully, even if he was a massive ****. I can't say for definite obviously, but I think they'll be surprisingly respectful with his body.

Whichever way you look at it, it's great news, but I think caution still needs to be taken.
 
jokerman said:
What is worrying is that we've been sending millions of pounds to the country where he's been hiding just yards from one of their military compounds.

I don't think the mass celebrations in the US are entirely wise, but it is at least a momentary morale boost. All these effects, such as the boosting of the stock market, are only temporary. Soon it'll be like nothing's changed.

And do we really think they buried his body properly?

Another reason he wasn't found for ten years was the fact he was in Pakistan. Everyone "thought" he was there, but nobody KNEW for a fact until now. All the major cities are on highest alert right now because there will be an attempted retaliation, and who knows if Osama was really STILL the leader of Al-Qaeda. Yes I am being completely cynical, but something bad is gonna happen, maybe not in the U.S. but to the troops, or our allies. Everyone is at risk right now.

And yeah, Obama pretty much wrapped up re-election unless gas prices hit $6 a gallon (which will probably happen in NYC and LA), and unemployment hits 20%, and even then it would be difficult. But hey, I'm a pessimist...according to my facebook wall.
 
They caught him by surprise, he didn't think they collected bins on bank holidays (I know hes been dead a week but for the purpose of the joke, lets just go with it ey! Besides last Monday was a bank holiday too :p )
 
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