Osama Bin Laden - Found Dead?
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Harvey
Hyper Poster
Ben said:Ian said:
... no
Even on the Western Front, it wasn't Hitler's death that ended WWII, it was the Soviet's reaching Berlin, and subsequently taking control of the city, which in turn led to Hitler's suicide.
The Nazis had the leadership to continue the War if they had been in a position to do so, in fact Hitler by this point was doing much, much more harm than good in his military decisions (see: Russia). Why do you think he killed himself, because he knew they were screwed at this point... Hitler was nothing if he wasn't a bit batsh!t crazy and arrogant, he would never have given up if he didn't know they were defeated. Hitler knew they had lost by this point, so he killed himself. The defeat was in absolutely no way the result of him killing himself, and there's a fair few million dead Russians who would take umbrage to you saying so
Anyway, yay, he's dead. Boo, we'll get bombed now <//3
Once Hitler and Goebells had commited suicide in Berlin, the rule of Germany fell into the hands of people far more concerned for the future of the German people, than Hitler, who by this point had lost most of his sense and firm grasp on reality - the collapse of Nazi Germany had already begun, with the surrender of German troops in Italy just before Hitlers death, for example - but the death of Hitler was the final nail in the coffin for the Third Reich, as by this point, barring the aforementioned, all of them realised that a surrender to the Allies (and preferebly the Western powers at that, and not the Reds) was necessary.
PS: Yay he's dead.
kimahri
CF Legend
http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/326248972
It seems safe for work atm and there's no porn ads so...
Delete if necessary.
Edit: Btw I'm not wading through all, like, 11k posts like.
It seems safe for work atm and there's no porn ads so...
Delete if necessary.
Edit: Btw I'm not wading through all, like, 11k posts like.
weedjam said:
Before anyone reads this, I'm not necessarily arguing this as an American, just a nomal person (cuz Americans aren't normal
). Seeing as he's killed thousands upon thousands of people, whether they're Americans or Muslims or Pakistanis whatever, you'd want someone like that off this earth (See: Stalin, Hitler). He's a mass murderer and the mastermind behind one of the worst terrorist attacks in the history of the world. He's been a symbol of fear and destruction ever since 9/11 to many people, and for those people it's a sigh of relief (for now at least) that one of the most potentially dangerous people in the world is dead. It also (apparently) brings closure to those who lost friends or family in 9/11, as the man behind it is finally dead, and can't do anything like it again(although his organization still can, he can't himself).
ciallkennett
Strata Poster
I would pop this in the Things That Make You LOL topic, but it is more suited here. The location of his death is a location on Google Maps and you can write a review of it. They are HILARIOUS :
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?c...=UTF8&ll=34.224577,73.073158&spn=0,0&t=h&z=12
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?c...=UTF8&ll=34.224577,73.073158&spn=0,0&t=h&z=12
ciallkennett said:
I'll bet the US Army were kicking themselves over that one.
"Yes Sir Mr President! We've found the secret hiding place of Osama Bin Laden, we're sending in a squadron now... No Sir, I've never heard of Google Maps... No Sir, I didn't know the hiding place has been on there for ten years... No Sir... Yes Sir... Goodbye Sir..."
tomahawk
Strata Poster
Disturbing? When they told him to surrender he pulled one of his wives in front of him as a shield. That alone should get you shot. And the Pakistani's "not knowing" he was there, yeah ok. I believe that when my shi!t turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbet. He deserved it, and there have already been a few "supposed" (failed) attacks on the U.S. but who knows. What is funny is his other wife there was asked where Osama was and she just pointed RIGHT at him. Boom. Roasted.
spicy
Giga Poster
The only disturbing thing about all of this is potentially the Pakistan government were quite happy to house, shield and protect one of the worlds most dangerous terrorists.
If they are happy to do that, then who is not to say that they are not quite happy to help AlQaeda with weaponary and funding. Also Pakistan own nuclear weapons, so it does get pretty disturbing when you think their nukes could end up in the hands of the AlQaeda quite easily.
If they are happy to do that, then who is not to say that they are not quite happy to help AlQaeda with weaponary and funding. Also Pakistan own nuclear weapons, so it does get pretty disturbing when you think their nukes could end up in the hands of the AlQaeda quite easily.
tomahawk
Strata Poster
Another interesting point is the chopper that went down, they (the SEALs) had to blow it up, to make sure Pakistani's would not send it to China to have them reverse engineer it for their own purpose. Pakistan is pretty shady and not looking good through all of this. but then again, a lot of the Middle East is saying how evil the United States is for murdering a "innocent man" which is just ridiculous.
tomahawk
Strata Poster
Well, that is the alleged theory floating about of why they blew it up. Look at World War 2 and the Japanese Zero that crash landed but stayed fully intact, the United States reversed engineered it, and mad eit better, and it changed the course of World War 2 greatly. This helicopter could have contained some extremely advanced technology, they were SEALs after all, and they didn't want anyone getting their hands on them.
True, but there's a part of me that thinks it's unlikely it'd happen...tomahawKSU said:
[EDIT] Just came across this. Don't know how legit the site is, but it suggests it wasn't a 'standard' Black Hawk Helicopter, which might explain the odd goings on with the wreckage. I thought it was just a normal one, which is why I raised some thoughts earlier.
http://dvice.com/archives/2011/05/bin-laden-raid.php
Don't really know what to make of it, I mean, I can't imagine it'll make a HUGE difference to anything, but then again it might...
tomahawKSU said:
I said the raid was apparently done without the knowledge of the Pakistani's authories knowledge, not that they were harbouring him. Which I very much doubt anyway. People tend to overlook the blindingly obvious when they're searching for something.
In my opinion nobody deserves to be shot in the head, or killed for any crime that they've done. They should've shipped him off to some remote prision and kept in solitary confinement for the rest of his days.