Phantasialand | F. L. Y. | Vekoma Launched Flying Coaster | 2020
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Lori Marie Loud
Giga Poster
Welp, here's the nominee for "Most What The F Project I've Ever Tracked".
2018, 2019, 2020........three years and it's STILL not open. Also what the F is that hotel and wall.
2018, 2019, 2020........three years and it's STILL not open. Also what the F is that hotel and wall.
Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
Isn’t it a hotel entrance, and potentially a guest’s first impression?
Yeah, but then if you've seen the main park entrance you'll know that Phantasialand doesn't give two hoots about first impressions.
Matthew Fair
Mega Poster
Universal- half of IOA currently looks like this yet they claim nothing is happening
Rupert
Mega Poster
I found this particularly jarring when staying at Matamba. They’ve got this amazing setting, and if they wanted you could walk from within the hotel, across that awesome bridge through Black Mamba’s loop, but instead you’re spat onto the main road and have to go through the weird 1980s main entrance. I hope for the new hotel you can go directly into Rookburgh (and then don’t have to see the questionable - though still unfinished - facade).Yeah, but then if you've seen the main park entrance you'll know that Phantasialand doesn't give two hoots about first impressions.
Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
I’ve never used the main entrance on numerous visits... I’ve always stayed in Matamba, and I’ve always used the hotel entrance in Ling Bao. It’s a pretty entrance and never has a queue of any sort.
@Hixee See above... Although I have ‘seen’ the main entrance, and it does look miserable. The hotel entrances, both into the hotels, and into the park, are all decent. I expect the new hotel entrance to be better when finished too.
Fluorineer
Mega Poster
iirc, the TÜV had some issues with the main entrance to the hotel through the loop. For some reason, it doesn't fulfill all the requirements to serve as a proper emergency exit, so in case of a fire, hotel guests would have to be evacuated through a different entrance than the one they came in through, which generally requires legitimate exit routes to have higher capacities than normal, require extra signage for guests and firefighters, and all around it would have been a hassle to do all of this within the limitations of an almost entirely done hotel.
Now once that decision is made, there is no turning back from that. It's sort of a reverse grandfathering. From my experience, TÜV is generally all over the place, and an ill-tempered inspector can make or break your design.
EDIT: actually, scratch that fire argument, of course the hotel has enough rescue pathways to evacuate guests in a fire. However, TÜV deemed that the bridge through the loop was not viable for any sort of evacuation, especially because it spills out into another "facility" with rough terrain (aka Deep in Africa) which is inaccessible for ambulances. Apparently that is such a big deal that the park scrapped that entrance entirely.
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Phantasiastisch
Mega Poster
I always asked myself then why they did not make an hotelentrance next to restaurant Bantu where that gate is...There you don't have a very rough terrain Imo, so I don't see the issue to not built one here...
In this YouTube video from Funfairblog you see Mrs. Löffelhardt, the wife of Mr. Löffelhardt, the owner of Phantasialand heading to the gate right next to the restaurant. Which I see as a possible hotelentrance.
But probably something is wrong with this as well, otherwise they would have done that already...
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In this YouTube video from Funfairblog you see Mrs. Löffelhardt, the wife of Mr. Löffelhardt, the owner of Phantasialand heading to the gate right next to the restaurant. Which I see as a possible hotelentrance.
But probably something is wrong with this as well, otherwise they would have done that already...
Which is approximately located here:
Rupert
Mega Poster
Great info, thanks Fluorineer! At least it sounds like the new hotel will have an entrance into the park in though (near the restaurant?).
PhantaDad2017
Roller Poster
I wouldn't worry too much about the ugly look of the hotel now. It reminds me a bit of the construction of a huge mosque in Cologne. During construction, the huge concrete dome looked like a nuclear power plant, but later, it looked much better.
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This kind of rusty-looking corten steel in gardens must also be applied carefully. There's a common fashion of "anti-gardening" in Germany in the last ~10 years, of covering the front yard earth with weed fabric, dumping truckloads of gravel or crushed rocks all over the place, adding a few stone columns, boulders or such rusty statues or monuments. Mostly lifeless deserts with few or no plants. loosely reminiscent of railway embankments. This style is now widely referred to as "gardens of horror" (Gärten des Grauens), and there's an initiative on Facebook and Instagram, collecting images of such "gardens".
„Allah in Ehrenfeld“ - Wie Köln seine Groß-Moschee bekam
Statt im alten Hinterhof einer Tapetenfabrik sollen Muslime in Köln bald in der größten Moschee Deutschlands beten können. Mit „Allah in Ehrenfeld“ dokumentierte die ARD am Dienstagabend angenehm unaufgeregt die Entstehung des Großbaus und ließ Befürworter ebenso zu Wort kommen wie Kritiker.
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This kind of rusty-looking corten steel in gardens must also be applied carefully. There's a common fashion of "anti-gardening" in Germany in the last ~10 years, of covering the front yard earth with weed fabric, dumping truckloads of gravel or crushed rocks all over the place, adding a few stone columns, boulders or such rusty statues or monuments. Mostly lifeless deserts with few or no plants. loosely reminiscent of railway embankments. This style is now widely referred to as "gardens of horror" (Gärten des Grauens), and there's an initiative on Facebook and Instagram, collecting images of such "gardens".
Phantasiastisch
Mega Poster
New discussion round: a second "onride" picture of a possible test on F.L.Y. Appeared on Twitter ... Or has it been edited again and is it actually on a PC screen?
And Phantasialand reacted to someone (in Dutch) that they're busy with solving the capacity issues on Crazy Bats.
@Lars RnR Finally! For me personally the overall look is impressive, even if this is the final product.
And Phantasialand reacted to someone (in Dutch) that they're busy with solving the capacity issues on Crazy Bats.
@Lars RnR Finally! For me personally the overall look is impressive, even if this is the final product.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Given that gateway serves as the emergency services access route I assume any sort of guest barriers/turnstiles for an entrance wouldn't be allowed. If anything I'd sooner believe the TUV ruled that one out before the loop bridge.
Personally my belief is just why pay for a staff member there when there's another entrance so close by. Given they are constantly long term planning perhaps the intention was to utilise that entrance when the park expanded across the road and the Berlin entrance ceased to exist. Hotel Charles Lindbergh definitely will have park access - leaving poor Matamba as the only 1 of 3 without.
That second onride picture comes from here. Brian/Flying Pilot posted it edited into the corner of a screenshot of the Rookburgh trailer showing a similar view.New discussion round: a second "onride" picture of a possible test on F.L.Y. Appeared on Twitter ... Or has it been edited again and is it actually on a PC screen?
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And Phantasialand reacted to someone (in Dutch) that they're busy with solving the capacity issues on Crazy Bats.
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@Lars RnR Finally! For me personally the overall look is impressive, even if this is the final product.
Weirdly sad about the death of the road side construction fence though. Years of memories of trying to get a look and taking pictures over it for updates here. Truly marks the end of an era. ?
Phantasiastisch
Mega Poster
Sounds very likely. I still see the main entrance disappear somewhere in the future so there's still hope for a hotel-entrance at Matamba.
(Please, don't ruin my hope and don't give a counter argument. Thank you.
)Nice Friday night humor, thanks for make me laugh.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Phantasialand's expansion proposals for the land opposite included a massive multi storey car park to serve, this between the other resort offerings planned for that side, alarger new entrance would be built on the other side of the road and presumably connect via tunnel under the current entrance location. Park obviously still are hoping for this hence but with no signs of movement from the regional government on giving permission for the expansion who knows when, or if even, it will happen.