Alton Towers | The Smiler | Gerstlauer Infinity
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nealbie
CF Legend
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
If you read the application, the "including 'beyond vertical' drop" bit is referring to Saw and what it has extra. As clearly the submitted plans don't include a beyond vertical drop lol.
But hey ho. I still want the station to get rejected and they build the ride anyway to spite.
I find it most bizarre how people, very clever people, choose to believe MNC's like Merlin are idiots. Odd =/
If you read the application, the "including 'beyond vertical' drop" bit is referring to Saw and what it has extra. As clearly the submitted plans don't include a beyond vertical drop lol.
But hey ho. I still want the station to get rejected and they build the ride anyway to spite.
I find it most bizarre how people, very clever people, choose to believe MNC's like Merlin are idiots. Odd =/
Martyn B
CF Legend
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
The fact that Alton say its a Gerstlauer, when they dont even need permission for it, definitely makes me think this is all false.
Can't anyone else remember the plans for the Vekoma Motorbike in the Gloomy Wood which were submitted to the Council, but all of a sudden, BAM, Rita appears...
The fact that Alton say its a Gerstlauer, when they dont even need permission for it, definitely makes me think this is all false.
Can't anyone else remember the plans for the Vekoma Motorbike in the Gloomy Wood which were submitted to the Council, but all of a sudden, BAM, Rita appears...
SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Here's a list of evidence against it being Gerst.
* The sound report has inaccuracies.
* Peep told me today that the budget listed for this is a whopping £20 mill. How do you get a Gerst to cost £20 mill?
* It has few block sections. That's a very un-Gerstlauer thing anyway, and it also means this ride will have terrible capacity unless it has a train, also a very un-Gerstlauer thing to do. Their new cars have even fewer seats.
* The track style portrayed in the plans is not like any other Gerstlauer.
* The company supposedly sued them over incompetence issues with Saw.
Frankly, the sheer cost of it is evidence enough it's one of the more expensive manufacturers. That coupled with the fact it must have trains for capacity reasons... I think that can only be Intamin. That isn't wishful thinking, it's logical thinking.
I love this post by Ben, because it's the kind of thing atheists say to theists about their holy books.
Here's a list of evidence against it being Gerst.
* The sound report has inaccuracies.
* Peep told me today that the budget listed for this is a whopping £20 mill. How do you get a Gerst to cost £20 mill?
* It has few block sections. That's a very un-Gerstlauer thing anyway, and it also means this ride will have terrible capacity unless it has a train, also a very un-Gerstlauer thing to do. Their new cars have even fewer seats.
* The track style portrayed in the plans is not like any other Gerstlauer.
* The company supposedly sued them over incompetence issues with Saw.
Frankly, the sheer cost of it is evidence enough it's one of the more expensive manufacturers. That coupled with the fact it must have trains for capacity reasons... I think that can only be Intamin. That isn't wishful thinking, it's logical thinking.
coasterdude_1
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Regardless of the manufacturer, I'm pretty sure that the world's first part will be linked to the duelling nature of the coaster, rather than a particular element.
Regardless of the manufacturer, I'm pretty sure that the world's first part will be linked to the duelling nature of the coaster, rather than a particular element.
blivvies biggest fan
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
^How?
^How?
RobJackson85
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Maverick was advertised with the 'worlds first horse shoe roll', to the general public this would've worked. But to a enthusiast it didn't quite wash.
I know an SW at Alton doesn't mean it has to contain a worlds first, but the cobra roll intertwined with the elongated batwing could be classed as a worlds first inversion, hence the new 'worlds first' section on the ride.
Could we be seeing a multi-car train X-Car? My bet is what ever it is, it has a train. Capacity is a big thing at Alton, so I think this will be one of the major factors.
Maverick was advertised with the 'worlds first horse shoe roll', to the general public this would've worked. But to a enthusiast it didn't quite wash.
I know an SW at Alton doesn't mean it has to contain a worlds first, but the cobra roll intertwined with the elongated batwing could be classed as a worlds first inversion, hence the new 'worlds first' section on the ride.
Could we be seeing a multi-car train X-Car? My bet is what ever it is, it has a train. Capacity is a big thing at Alton, so I think this will be one of the major factors.
Jools
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Omg I remember that, perhaps Merlin have kept this in minds for X Sector so went for something different in the Dark Forest. It would make sense. I think there is a high chance of the worlds first factor coming from the car design. Is there a stand up launched coaster anywhere? Just a wild stab in the dark though.
dominoes said:
Originally planned for the Dark Forest. A vertical launch coaster, with lap bars.
Omg I remember that, perhaps Merlin have kept this in minds for X Sector so went for something different in the Dark Forest. It would make sense. I think there is a high chance of the worlds first factor coming from the car design. Is there a stand up launched coaster anywhere? Just a wild stab in the dark though.
blivvies biggest fan
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
I forgot how s#!t that picture was!
I forgot how s#!t that picture was!
SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Can we just make it clear that regarding concept art like that... It's highly unlikely that an image like that is portraying ride type. It's going for general feel, theme, concept, etc.
Off topic slightly, but is the car in that image Wicked?
Can we just make it clear that regarding concept art like that... It's highly unlikely that an image like that is portraying ride type. It's going for general feel, theme, concept, etc.
Off topic slightly, but is the car in that image Wicked?
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Uh, is there any proof that's real?
Because, that's CLEARLY Oblivion's art that's been photoshopped.
And just because they were considering one for another part of the park doesn't really mean much. This also isn't going to be a Booster Bike.
Uh, is there any proof that's real?
Because, that's CLEARLY Oblivion's art that's been photoshopped.
And just because they were considering one for another part of the park doesn't really mean much. This also isn't going to be a Booster Bike.
Nemesis Inferno
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
^That pic was part of the mood board stuff they did for Dark Forest, with the RoboArms as well, so it's real... Just horrible photoshopping...
^That pic was part of the mood board stuff they did for Dark Forest, with the RoboArms as well, so it's real... Just horrible photoshopping...
Jools
Giga Poster
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Just a note. The concept art for Th13teen also came with that image, which showed a coaster train dropping didn't it? So if we got that, that means we could easily be seeing on of these other concepts. Wouldn't surprise me if Sub-Terra were the robot-arms actually. If not something similar.
Just a note. The concept art for Th13teen also came with that image, which showed a coaster train dropping didn't it? So if we got that, that means we could easily be seeing on of these other concepts. Wouldn't surprise me if Sub-Terra were the robot-arms actually. If not something similar.
SaiyanHajime
CF Legend
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
It's not being used in that image for anything other than creative reasons. The picture used might have, for example, been easy to cut out.
Yeah, that was me.Jools said:
It's not being used in that image for anything other than creative reasons. The picture used might have, for example, been easy to cut out.
A lot of creative companies badly and quickly mash together stuff in photoshop to get an idea out quickly for stuff like mood boards, which are really just visuals to help explain the idea between individuals within the company. You don't want to waste time on something that may never happen. They certainly did it at both creative offices I've worked in. It doesn't need to be good. I'd guess it's real, it looks it to me. My guess is that it would be better if it was fan made.
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