Kings Island | Orion | B&M Giga Coaster
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TMCoasters
Mega Poster
Oh hey that turnaround looks like it will do absolutely nothing.
I hope this ride proves me wrong
I hope this ride proves me wrong
CrashCoaster
CF Legend
^This whole ride does absolutely nothing.
Matt N
CF Legend
Even if the layout perhaps isn't the most remarkable we've ever seen on a B&M giga, I still think it looks really fun, personally! From my experience, these B&M hypers are never truly bad rides, and you should take some of those elements at a pretty good speed, which should in theory cause pretty good ejector airtime! That turnaround and the mini-ampersand later in the ride also have potential to produce some good G's, in my opinion!
Even though I'm admittedly more excited for Candymonium than I am for Orion in terms of the two B&M hypers (by model) being built in America in 2020, I still look forward to seeing how Orion turns out. The proof will come when we see the train negotiate the elements; does anyone remember Mako being built, and how everyone thought that would be really bland? Then, when it came to the first test run, it ripped through its circuit at a blistering speed, and even though it did slow down as testing went on and the trims started to kick in, it turned out to be a fantastic ride (well, in most people's eyes, at least), and much more enjoyable than most expected! It certainly wowed me and became my number 1 coaster, but that's besides the point!
Before I waffle on for too long, what I'm basically trying to say is; even though we can probably get a good idea of how we like the elements, I don't think we should necessarily dismiss this ride until we see a train negotiate the track or even until the first riders get on it, because there's still a lot of potential for surprises here!
Even though I'm admittedly more excited for Candymonium than I am for Orion in terms of the two B&M hypers (by model) being built in America in 2020, I still look forward to seeing how Orion turns out. The proof will come when we see the train negotiate the elements; does anyone remember Mako being built, and how everyone thought that would be really bland? Then, when it came to the first test run, it ripped through its circuit at a blistering speed, and even though it did slow down as testing went on and the trims started to kick in, it turned out to be a fantastic ride (well, in most people's eyes, at least), and much more enjoyable than most expected! It certainly wowed me and became my number 1 coaster, but that's besides the point!
Before I waffle on for too long, what I'm basically trying to say is; even though we can probably get a good idea of how we like the elements, I don't think we should necessarily dismiss this ride until we see a train negotiate the track or even until the first riders get on it, because there's still a lot of potential for surprises here!
bob_3_
Giga Poster
That turn is deceptively simple I feel. I spent a long time trying to recreate it in FVD and I think it'll surprise people with it's forces. It has to enter in a way that'll create almost sideways floater kinda like a reverse treble clef but abit softer, before catching it at the top at the tightest section before dropping back down.
I'll admit the layout is a little bland on the surface but I do hope that it has some hidden spiceyness in it's shaping.
Antinos
Slut for Spinners
I have that hope as well, but I honestly think you shaped your turn better than Orion's. You have a slight level-out as the train rolls but I can't really see that on Orion.That turn is deceptively simple I feel. I spent a long time trying to recreate it in FVD and I think it'll surprise people with it's forces. It has to enter in a way that'll create almost sideways floater kinda like a reverse treble clef but abit softer, before catching it at the top at the tightest section before dropping back down.
I'll admit the layout is a little bland on the surface but I do hope that it has some hidden spiceyness in it's shaping.
In revisiting the POV, tend to side with @Antinos - while I would love a turnaround more as @bob_3_ developed, the train transition really appears to not spend too much time at the top, which probably keeps floater g's minimal. That is compared to a downward helix/turn element that moves with greater speed or sets up the train for more airtime (thinking specifically of SFOG Goliath's helix, which packs a great punch at the top of the element). As comparison:
My fear is the twisting drop is more drawn out and not as tight a spiral, which means a slower speed transition and, as a result, no real "tug" airtime. Would love to be proven wrong, and still hold out hope for the last row having some tug effect; but this is certainly not as aggressive as could have been done. Even doing a normal treble clef turnaround would have been great; that is my favorite airtime moment on Fury.
My fear is the twisting drop is more drawn out and not as tight a spiral, which means a slower speed transition and, as a result, no real "tug" airtime. Would love to be proven wrong, and still hold out hope for the last row having some tug effect; but this is certainly not as aggressive as could have been done. Even doing a normal treble clef turnaround would have been great; that is my favorite airtime moment on Fury.
CrashCoaster
CF Legend
Looking at the live webcams, the turnaround is complete, as well as the small airtime hill before the huge camelback.
bernatc22
Mega Poster
I'm really at a loss as to why they chose to make this a "regular' (albeit small) hill which will most likely give regular floater, rather than making it low to the ground and it actually giving some stellar ejector.
After all, a huge floater Camelback follows, so why the hell shape it like that?
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After all, a huge floater Camelback follows, so why the hell shape it like that?
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In general this isn't the "B&M way", building aggressive airtime hills low to the ground. I could give you the whole engineering schpeal, but ultimately it's just not what's been typical with their hypers and gigas.
I think this hill will be just a speed hill, something there that gives you a bit of airtime action, but pretty smoothed out as it will be taken ~70-80 MPH. So, something akin to Steel Vengeance's "fastest airtime hill in the world", which give sensation of direction change rather than airtime.
Pear
Strata Poster
davidm
Strata Poster
April 11th announced (well opening day anyway so thats no great shock)
www.visitkingsisland.com
Pass holder preview the day before tho' ; https://www.visitkingsisland.com/play/events/gold-pass-preview
Kings Island set to debut new Orion giga coaster April 11 - Kings Island
Orion is one of only 7 giga coasters in the world and is opening this year at Kings Island! Learn more about the new Orion roller coaster & plan your visit!
www.visitkingsisland.com
Pass holder preview the day before tho' ; https://www.visitkingsisland.com/play/events/gold-pass-preview
Doublethink
Roller Poster
Excellent news! Excited to be getting the chance to ride in June as part of our USA road trip. Just pantehon (looking looking pretty likely) and Jersy Devil (losing hope) to go now!
JJLehto
Hyper Poster
April 11th announced (well opening day anyway so thats no great shock)
Kings Island set to debut new Orion giga coaster April 11 - Kings Island
Orion is one of only 7 giga coasters in the world and is opening this year at Kings Island! Learn more about the new Orion roller coaster & plan your visit!
Pass holder preview the day before tho' ; https://www.visitkingsisland.com/play/events/gold-pass-preview
Glad to now it'll be open for my visit.
As for all the other comments, yeah the layout is weird and a bit uninspiring. Shame they didn't do a twister style a la Fury but hey it looks pretty cool! And long as it has some airtime it'll beat Diamondback so works for me lol
bob_3_
Giga Poster
Source: https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2020/january/orion-construction-progressing-on-schedule
I can't help but love this ride. Sexy blue B&M track, the scale of the thing. I understand the hate, but I personality can't get enough of it.