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Phantasialand | F. L. Y. | Vekoma Launched Flying Coaster | 2020
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CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Personally I really like the theming finish on the wall; but yeah I'd also have to agree the straight edge is rather unpleasant to the eye.
They've presumably hit the height limit there and needed the sound barrier to be that hight along its entire length otherwise they would need to reduce the height of the coaster's layout. It's a shame but a necessary evil I guess.
I'm hoping at least the buildings and structures of Rookburgh connected to the wall inside the area will make it look better from that side.
Andy.vo
Roller Poster
Hey everyone, I’m Andy ! This is my first post on this website and I really wanted to share something with you.
Phantasialand reopened today for their Wintertraum. There is a big show at the end of the day, with dancers. And I noticed that 3 dancers were wearing steampunk costumes and were pretending that they were flying.
Is it a hint ? Is it the confirmation of the opening of FLY in 2018 ?
I really hope so !
Phantasialand reopened today for their Wintertraum. There is a big show at the end of the day, with dancers. And I noticed that 3 dancers were wearing steampunk costumes and were pretending that they were flying.
Is it a hint ? Is it the confirmation of the opening of FLY in 2018 ?
I really hope so !
CrashCoaster
CF Legend
Nah. At this time of year and how far off ?.?.? Is from completion, there is around a 0% chance it will open this year. Maybe it could be some other announcement related to the ride?
Btw welcome to the site.
Andy.vo
Roller Poster
Oh no, I made a mistake I meant 2019 !Nah. At this time of year and how far off ?.?.? Is from completion, there is around a 0% chance it will open this year. Maybe it could be some other announcement related to the ride?
Btw welcome to the site.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Since the Magic Rose: Spirit of Light show started in 2015 the costumes have always been rather Steampunk inspired. It's likely a coincidence (or was some seriously early teasing!
).EDIT: Some new pictures from CoasterFriends.de
The yet to be themed steel wall on the right.
The connection between old and new Wuze. Quite a significant chunk of new rockwork extending the Wuze Town round tower upwards there.
In the afternoon a new scaffold began to arise at one of the protruding arch elements. Presumably for themeing work to take place. So Wuze Wall updates will continue in the coming weeks after all it seems!
And a nice view of Kaiserplatz in its Wintertraum glory with the construction site just visible in the background behind the buildings.
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Lori Marie Loud
Giga Poster
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Roller Poster
Flying track | Sitdown track | Lifthill | Launch | Brakes | Loading Station| Unloading Station
I have adjusted the overview-picture and added the new trackpieces. It turns out the zero G roll is before the second launch which I did not expect.
It makes me curious what kind of ellements they will add after the second launch, because that one seems a lot bigger (and probably faster) to me.
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PetskuC
Mega Poster
I'm really not sure what those other colors mean, can someone explain those to me? I realize the orange pieces are launches, and that the purple piece is the lift hill/darkride element.
I have adjusted the overview-picture and added the new trackpieces. It turns out the zero G roll is before the second launch which I did not expect.
It makes me curious what kind of ellements they will add after the second launch, because that one seems a lot bigger (and probably faster) to me.
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lostfrequentie
Roller Poster
The black pices are the tracks that placed on an 90 degree angel the green Colered ones are the stations load in and load out
The blue track is the brake and the red track is track and orange is launch
And the purple is lift
The blue track is the brake and the red track is track and orange is launch
And the purple is lift
PetskuC
Mega Poster
That's intresting how the first launch is after a lifhill. Also how the brakes are so long including the long loadstations
roff
Roller Poster
I've seen the wall live today and it looks so much better than in the pictures. Much more realistic and it doesn't appear so tall at all.
I've noticed that there are already a few arches at the back:
They already started welding the wire construction to the big arches, it's barely visible on the picture (at the very bottom).
Once the scaffolding is up they can also paint the two middle spires, all the other ones have a nice rust / copper finish to them.
I've noticed that there are already a few arches at the back:
They already started welding the wire construction to the big arches, it's barely visible on the picture (at the very bottom).
Once the scaffolding is up they can also paint the two middle spires, all the other ones have a nice rust / copper finish to them.
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Hi there. This is my first post here after following this thread for a while. I'm really excited for this thing.
I suppose you mean those guys?
Been there today and watched the show as well. The three flying guys are not there for the first time. They were part of the (same) show last year as well!
But I also think it's going to open next year and are really looking forward to my Park visit End of January 2019.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
http://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/016873135^ Yeah that seems quite possible actually. Two new notices of 'Suspension of proceedings' correspondence have just appeared - directed at the applicant (Phantasialand) now.
So R.I.P. F.L.Y.??
EDIT: Update!
On PhantaFriends.de @Schlussbremse has explained the details of the refusal on the website.
"The brand F.L.Y. can not be protected because it has "insufficient distinctiveness" according to UMV Article 7 1 b).
In essence: rejected because, according to the Authority's interpretation, it is basically trying to enter a word mark in the general English word for flying.
Excerpt from the reason:
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The mark applied for consists of the English expression "F.L.Y.". The fact that there is a dot between the letters is not enough to make the character distinctive. Typographical symbols such as dot, comma, semicolon, quotation marks or exclamation marks are not perceived by the public as a mark of origin. Consumers perceive it as a sign that should attract their attention, but not as a sign that points to the company's origin. This separate spelling of the letters "F.L.Y." also does not change the descriptive character of the sign, since it does not change the meaning of the word; Nor does it require any mental effort on the part of the consumer to establish an immediate and immediate connection with the term to which they refer.
The term "fly" means: "transport in an aircraft; Move or be hurried quickly through the air; move through the air using wings ". (Information from the Oxford Online Dictionary, retrieved on 15/11/2018 at https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fly).
(...)
Since the sign has a clear descriptive meaning, it is devoid of any distinctive character and therefore can not be registered under Article 7 (1) (b) CTMR, since it is unable to fulfil the essential function of a trade mark: To distinguish a company's services from those of its competitors."
So yeah F.L.Y. is dead. Can't see a way around that other than a name change at this stage, given its importance they won't keep a brand name they don't own. Intrigued to see what happens now.
With an account on the EUIPO website you can actually read the Suspension of Opposition notices that were put in the correspondence section after the office refused the F.L.Y. trademark. It seems the park or their legal representatives think they must still have a chance and have contested the refusal. Therefore the application will be re-examined, and meanwhile the opposition cases have been suspended and will be reopened after a final decision has been made.
So presumably this process and the uncertainly surrounding the coaster's name will continue to drag on for a while longer...
Back to Wuze Wall one of the arches/buttresses has been completely surround by scaffolding for theming work.
Source: ProTrueTV YouTube
Robert.W
Roller Poster
I’m actually beginning to really like the look of the Wuze wall. Only issue is is that it makes the rest of the older Wuze facades look a bit dilapidated in comparison, so I hope they will have a look at renewing them in the future as well. Really looking forward to seeing what these arches develop into!
And about the name... well, you do have to admire Phantasialand and their determination. I have a feeling they won’t get it, but who knows I guess...
And about the name... well, you do have to admire Phantasialand and their determination. I have a feeling they won’t get it, but who knows I guess...
Coaster Hipster
Giga Poster
Benjamin Bloemendaal, Senior Concept Engineer at Vekoma gave some little insight on their upcoming 3rd Gen Flyers in an interview courtesy of @ECG:
(The F.L.Y. / Next Gen Flyer bits come at 6:30)
Great to see CoasterForce providing an opportunity to Benjamin to express his passion and expertise in designing rides. I don't need to further stress my appreciation for New Vekoma rides (see profile picture for reference)
Great to see CoasterForce providing an opportunity to Benjamin to express his passion and expertise in designing rides. I don't need to further stress my appreciation for New Vekoma rides (see profile picture for reference)
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Look at the new gen. Flyer concept arts.
Look at trains in the sideways sitting position while in the station and dark ride section.
In flight.
Look at trains in the sideways sitting position while in the station and dark ride section.
In flight.
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