Phantasialand | F. L. Y. | Vekoma Launched Flying Coaster | 2020
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JoshC.
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Another point is that it very much looks like an aviator badge (those usually given to pilots of military planes). Fits with the style from the advert for the hotel, which said 'sleep like an aeronaut'.
Rookburgh could very much be about becoming an "aeronaut", with the centre of it all being, unsurprisingly, earning your badge by riding Fly. Since it'll likely be a sub-area of Berlin, there's plenty of chances to make it era-appropriate and steampunk too as a result.
Rookburgh could very much be about becoming an "aeronaut", with the centre of it all being, unsurprisingly, earning your badge by riding Fly. Since it'll likely be a sub-area of Berlin, there's plenty of chances to make it era-appropriate and steampunk too as a result.
Flying Pilot
Mega Poster
They better did not spend the past 3 months on this badge... I think it could have been done a bit better.
tomahawk
Strata Poster
My first thought on seeing this is "flying car" and that is really easy to steampunk. Maybe the backstory and dark ride segment is around making the car fly, and you accelerate (launch) to get to flight. Could work quite well I think.
My mind is still boggled as to how the transition from sitting to flying wont be offensive.
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My mind is still boggled as to how the transition from sitting to flying wont be offensive.
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toofpikk
Hyper Poster
It's an aviator badge. I would probably drop the idea of a flying car pretty quick, considering a lot of the posters so far had characters wearing old fashioned pilot clothing, with the goggles, leather caps, wooly jackets, patterned pilot uniforms and all. (There's even a zeppelin on the billboard by wuze town!)
A simple google search of 'aviator badge/logo' shows similar depictions. Whilst yes, the stylised crest could be similar to an early aged motor vehicle, considering the other components of the marketing we've seen I really would doubt that the rides theme would have anything to do with cars.
Just an opinion though. Would be very intrigued to be proven wrong.
A simple google search of 'aviator badge/logo' shows similar depictions. Whilst yes, the stylised crest could be similar to an early aged motor vehicle, considering the other components of the marketing we've seen I really would doubt that the rides theme would have anything to do with cars.
Just an opinion though. Would be very intrigued to be proven wrong.
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tomahawk
Strata Poster
I know it's an aviator badge, doesn't mean my head (which is a scary, scary place) can't go off on wild tangents. Just wanting to spice it up a bit.It's an aviator badge. I would probably drop the idea of a flying car pretty quick, considering a lot of the posters so far had characters wearing old fashioned pilot clothing, with the googles, leather caps, wooly jackets and all.
A simple google search of 'aviator badge/logo' shows similar depictions. Whilst yes, the stylised crest could be similar to an early aged motor vehicle, considering the other components of the marketing we've seen I really would doubt that the rides theme would have anything to do with cars.
Just an opinion though. Would be very intrigued to be proven wrong.
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Hutch
Strata Poster
Does the transition take place during the launch or before? Whether the train is traveling fast or slow, I'd imagine it'd be fine. Falcon's Fury (best comparison I can think of right now) has the high speed transition from flying to sitting, all with a quick deceleration rate, yet it felt seamless. I trust that they'll be able to get it right with this.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
The dragon wings motif did make me think of this symbol which appears on both the Rookburgh and F.L.Y. teaser artworks but it is rather different in style (more Victorian looking) though.
Other than the awful lettering, I think it looks good but probably best to withhold proper judgement until we see a high quality version.
Wonder if the logo will feature on some new teaser sign in the park when it reopens in April.
Also I'm intrigued though to see if that actually is the final look of the logo. Personally I'm presuming it is with the metallic wings and F.L.Y. track red background. I think it works.
However it could slightly change for all we know. The Taron logo that was initially trademarked had a different wooden style/colouring to the final sliver and black metallic version used in the park and on promotional material - use of which started only 2 months after that trademark was filed.
Also I'd agree with the speculation about the aviator badge. There's a clear focus on Aviators or Aeronauts as the park is terming it.
Also not really relevant to Rookburgh but an interesting bit of trivia.
A German YouTuber filmed an interview with Manuela Loffelhardt, director of shows in the park and wife of the park's owner. Rookburgh is mentioned but nothing new is said she simply responds "I just do shows". But it is mentioned that Phantasialand did host visits by officials from Universal and Disney who were interested in seeing and discussing the build of Klugheim and Taron. The Loffelhardts felt honoured that the world's "theme park giants" were that interested in what their family run park is doing.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Before. The train is going up the lift (vertical dark ride section possibly) then does a right turn, and at the same time it turns into the flying position. The train then heads into the first launch directly after.
The speed is most likely going to the same as that seen in the prototype tests as that is the same lift and track sections being reused in the actual coaster.
Zek_Teh_Kek
Hyper Poster
I can't be the only one who thinks it looks like the bird on the front of the LECH Coaster trains, right?
Ok yeah now that I look at it again, the only thing similar between the two is the fact that they have wings.
Ok yeah now that I look at it again, the only thing similar between the two is the fact that they have wings.
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
Tobi on PhantaFriends.de has had a look at the site during the off season, and despite the past few weeks since the off season began being extremely cold and seeing a lot of snow fall there has still been considerable progress on site.
Above the underground maintenance hall a number of concrete walls have been built. Among these one relatively large room has been formed, which Tobi speculates could potentially be a breakfast room/restaurant for Hotel Charles Lindbergh.
Theming work continues on the sound barrier wall (backside of the Wuze Wall) with parts already themed and other sections with the first concrete layers being sprayed. He also notes that gaps/recesses have been left in the surface at regular intervals. Similar to those small gaps previously seen on the Wuze side (which eventually ended up being the connection points for the arches that were added on); however the Rookburgh gaps are different in that they run almost the entire height of the wall.
More track for F.L.Y. has been installed at the curve into the brake run, and the next piece sits under the supports already to be lifted up into place. The track here does twist over 180 degrees - so this will another inversion just before the brake run!
Tobi estimates that there are currently 961m of track in place. If the coaster was to be only slightly longer than Flying Dinosaur (1123m) then a maximum of 86% of layout has been built. However as things are coming together he believes much more track is needed to complete the layout of F.L.Y., and therefore it will most likely be the world's longest flying coaster by a considerable distance.
Above the underground maintenance hall a number of concrete walls have been built. Among these one relatively large room has been formed, which Tobi speculates could potentially be a breakfast room/restaurant for Hotel Charles Lindbergh.
Theming work continues on the sound barrier wall (backside of the Wuze Wall) with parts already themed and other sections with the first concrete layers being sprayed. He also notes that gaps/recesses have been left in the surface at regular intervals. Similar to those small gaps previously seen on the Wuze side (which eventually ended up being the connection points for the arches that were added on); however the Rookburgh gaps are different in that they run almost the entire height of the wall.
More track for F.L.Y. has been installed at the curve into the brake run, and the next piece sits under the supports already to be lifted up into place. The track here does twist over 180 degrees - so this will another inversion just before the brake run!
Tobi estimates that there are currently 961m of track in place. If the coaster was to be only slightly longer than Flying Dinosaur (1123m) then a maximum of 86% of layout has been built. However as things are coming together he believes much more track is needed to complete the layout of F.L.Y., and therefore it will most likely be the world's longest flying coaster by a considerable distance.
Ethan
Strata Poster
Thanks for the update. Just to clarify, does this inversion resemble the one already existing over the tall building, or is it a different type of inversion?
VikingsAf
Mega Poster
As I understand, all that can be deduced us that it's a twisted piece which is going to be lifted in place
Phantasiastisch
Mega Poster
And Tobi just mentioned on Phantafriends that today another track part was installed after the inversion. Immediately next to the inversion.
Source: https://www.phantafriends.de/topic/2346-neu-20xx-fly-baufortschritte/?page=3
Source: https://www.phantafriends.de/topic/2346-neu-20xx-fly-baufortschritte/?page=3
CSLKennyNI
Giga Poster
New update from Tobi on PhantaFriends.de:
More track has been installed so 1000m have now been surprassed. To clarify the position of the inversion mentioned in the previous update it is not directly before the brakes but shortly before; there is a 180° curve between it and the brake run. Another new rail has been attached to a bit of track that passes by above this inversion.
And after the 1st launch a new track part has also been added.
Further supports are being erected with 3 already standing fully completed for track to be attached.
Tobi estimates a total of 1014m of track currently stands. Of course we do not know yet how long F.L.Y. is however if it were to only be slightly longer than Flying Dinosaur then around about 90% of track is installed.
Concrete is finally being poured on the final section of untouched ground in the area. This space (seen bottom right in the over the fence site pictures) had until now been used for the storage of supports, rebar and building materials.
Almost certainly these foundations will include a lot of footers (especially as both launches point in that direction) allowing for the completion of F.L.Y.'s layout. As seen in a post on the previous page the staff car park is now being used for storing supports. Given that the final coaster foundations are being worked on and that the park will need to clear and use that car park again I think there's a good possibility that F.L.Y.'s track might be finished before 1st April when the new season starts.
The room previously mentioned above the underground maintenance hall has formed into a whole building which is receiving a sloped roof.
EDIT: PhantaFriends user JoJoCo_0218 has found a EUIPO trademark for "Charles Lindbergh" the classifications would match a hotel however as the application is still under consideration there's no mention of Phantasialand on the page yet, so we cannot say for sure that its for Rookburgh's hotel. (Although I'd question what the chances are of anyone else in Germany secretly trademarking that name, lets be honest.)
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/017981439
The name being used for the application has an address in Cologne (near the park) and interestingly also filed under that name is a trademark for "Uhrwerk" along with logo:
The trademark classification for an eatery and the knife and fork in the image it is undoubtedly for a restaurant.
It was filed the same day the new application for F.L.Y., with its logo, was (05.02.2019).
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/018019385
The clockwork theme and imagery style would work with the steampunk theme.
Whether the restaurant is part of the area or hotel is unknown. However none of Hotel Ling Bao and Hotel Matamba's restaurants are separately trademarked so it would be a first if Lindbergh's was.
Meanwhile Rutmor's Taverne in Klugheim is trademarked.
More track has been installed so 1000m have now been surprassed. To clarify the position of the inversion mentioned in the previous update it is not directly before the brakes but shortly before; there is a 180° curve between it and the brake run. Another new rail has been attached to a bit of track that passes by above this inversion.
And after the 1st launch a new track part has also been added.
Further supports are being erected with 3 already standing fully completed for track to be attached.
Tobi estimates a total of 1014m of track currently stands. Of course we do not know yet how long F.L.Y. is however if it were to only be slightly longer than Flying Dinosaur then around about 90% of track is installed.
Concrete is finally being poured on the final section of untouched ground in the area. This space (seen bottom right in the over the fence site pictures) had until now been used for the storage of supports, rebar and building materials.
Almost certainly these foundations will include a lot of footers (especially as both launches point in that direction) allowing for the completion of F.L.Y.'s layout. As seen in a post on the previous page the staff car park is now being used for storing supports. Given that the final coaster foundations are being worked on and that the park will need to clear and use that car park again I think there's a good possibility that F.L.Y.'s track might be finished before 1st April when the new season starts.
The room previously mentioned above the underground maintenance hall has formed into a whole building which is receiving a sloped roof.
EDIT: PhantaFriends user JoJoCo_0218 has found a EUIPO trademark for "Charles Lindbergh" the classifications would match a hotel however as the application is still under consideration there's no mention of Phantasialand on the page yet, so we cannot say for sure that its for Rookburgh's hotel. (Although I'd question what the chances are of anyone else in Germany secretly trademarking that name, lets be honest.)
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/017981439
The name being used for the application has an address in Cologne (near the park) and interestingly also filed under that name is a trademark for "Uhrwerk" along with logo:
The trademark classification for an eatery and the knife and fork in the image it is undoubtedly for a restaurant.
It was filed the same day the new application for F.L.Y., with its logo, was (05.02.2019).
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/018019385
The clockwork theme and imagery style would work with the steampunk theme.
Whether the restaurant is part of the area or hotel is unknown. However none of Hotel Ling Bao and Hotel Matamba's restaurants are separately trademarked so it would be a first if Lindbergh's was.
Meanwhile Rutmor's Taverne in Klugheim is trademarked.
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