John91 said:Not everyone likes an unrealistic game. A lot of people like the realism of the GT series. It can a lot of fun, if you realise that you have to drive properly and not like a lunatic as in burnout. And irrespective of our opinion, GT5 will be absolutely massive.
first up, I have to say that GT5 is as unrealistic as any driving game out there.
It's simple. If you can drive a car, THAT fast around a track without crashing, using a PS2 controller - why do cars still come with steering wheels rather than controllers?
I've been playing GT5 with my wheel, but last night couldn't be arsed setting it up, so used the pad - it was much easier. It wasn't as good, but it was certainly easier. When you get the hang of using a feedback wheel, it makes the game a better experience, and you can certainly push things more, but you're more vulnerable to mistakes too. Either way is seriously nothing like driving a real car though. Without the tactile feedback of the forces on your body and through the wheel and clutch, you'll never be able to make it real - it's always just a 'game'.
Smelly said:I came to conclusion years ago that the majority of gamers are stupid. They don't want innovation, they don't want to be surprised and i'm not even sure they even play games to have fun. They just want to play the same game over and over again (usually a racer or a fps), but with prettier pixels.
(not too far away from the movie or music industries in fact)
It's not that at all though Smelly, the problem is that you're some kind of Don Quixote!
I love Sci-Fi films, they're my favourite genre. Yet essentially due to the limit of story lines and the like, most Sci-Fi films are pretty much the same thing. Yet sometimes I want to enjoy a well made film, a great visual treat - so I watch Alien. Other times I want high adventure and great fun film making, so I watch Star Wars. Other times I want cheese, so watch Battle beyond the stars. Sometimes I want to see many Americans die, so starship Troopers goes on. Other times I want comedy, so Space Balls is the film of choice.
What you're saying is that essentially, one of those films is a better version than the others, and that you only need one, and no others should be made.
You like Sci-Fi? Well, it's unoriginal, you need to watch the highly original and innovative "Life of a prune - From plum to poo!".
Well, I don't, I like Sci-Fi. Sometimes something different comes along an I lap it up - but I have a preference, and nothing is perfect, so each newer version should innovate within it's own realms to strive for perfection.
Likewise, I love driving games, but I don't think I should still be playing Revs on the BBC Micro as it's the first, so therefore the only, realistic driving game I could ever want. Why should I buy Mario Kart Wii, or SSBB when there's earlier versions that do the same pretty much? I love to see innovative games, but I also like to play games which improve and expand on games which I enjoyed. I'm not talking about the yearly release of Fifa where the only difference is a bit of spit on the graphics and this years players, but certainly the GT series has made more changes to the game than the previous version. YES, it's more of roughly the same, but it's different enough to be an expansion of what went before, only more pleasing to the eye.
Silent Running may be the best Sci Fi film ever, but I'm glad that it's hippy go lucky style and effects were out dated by The Matrix! I don't want to watch badly manned robot suits in piss poor blue-screen environments forever. Things move on, and things change, though it may only be slightly.
People have a preference for things, and that wont change. I like girls, but you telling me I'm being boring and not supporting the innovative work of the 'shag a cellphone society' isn't going to wash. I know what I like, and I want it. Maybe one day I'll be satisfied, but the driving game genre - like the Sci-fi genre I pointed out above - is already quite varied in styles and appeals - more than enough to keep me satisfied within the genre, and styles within it for a long time.
GT5 is a good enough game. It's not mind blowing, or great fun, but it's enjoyable. I pay games to enjoy my time, sometimes I want fun, sometimes something else, but as long as I'm enjoying my time, then it's irrelevant if I'm having fun, or not.