Thirteen, Intamin ''psychoaster'' - Alton Towers 2010
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Kebab
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Just sounds utter ridicule to me. I can't see how it's going to help publicity; just sounds like some corny attempt to excite enthusiasts and younger followers for whats in store. I couldn't care less in all fairness, I'm just awaiting the opening, so I can ride it, and then give my own personal view on it. I'm not letting hype destroy my expectations, as with a certain coaster that springs to mind, having me sawing my own virtual leg off just to enter a competition...
I like family-friendly rides, and I'm a big fan of Disney's coasters (not afraid to say BTM hits my top 10) as they seem more enjoyable with others and always seem to be unique in some respects. So fairly high hopes for SW6!
I like family-friendly rides, and I'm a big fan of Disney's coasters (not afraid to say BTM hits my top 10) as they seem more enjoyable with others and always seem to be unique in some respects. So fairly high hopes for SW6!
Kebab
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^Haha, very well stated in a sarcastic way! That's actually believable; and if you want to go into franchises imagine Xbox: The Ride, the reliability would be horrendous! Didn't Microsoft use Wraiths in relation to the Xbox in some adverts? I'm not saying it's going to happen, it's little more intended than a joke
Mark
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Personally I think the idea of using something that is likely to crop up on a google search that may also lead to more hype on the coaster is incredibly good marketing. Something that Merlin is getting very profficient in doing.
It's the backing all the hype up that seems to be an issue. Either way I do kinda like the look of the ride, or what little we can see of it. Alton are normally very good at this kind of thing so at least we have every reason to be optimistic!
It's the backing all the hype up that seems to be an issue. Either way I do kinda like the look of the ride, or what little we can see of it. Alton are normally very good at this kind of thing so at least we have every reason to be optimistic!
Nemesis Inferno
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Landscaping, material construction, material transport, theming, sourcing outside company to build it, yada yada yada...
Lots of things contribue to construction costs... Not just the track, and Intamin aren't exactly the cheapest company to go with are they?
Lots of things contribue to construction costs... Not just the track, and Intamin aren't exactly the cheapest company to go with are they?
^^Considering this is £2m MORE than Intimidator 305 (and Kingda Ka, for the record), I'd say this is a British phenomenom. The bureaucratic process slows coaster building down to a slow crawl, and people still crave to be paid during said process. Also, all sorts of permits have to be obtained, and asking for those in the correct way also requires a lot of resources.
Now imagine what an Intamin Hyper would cost. You could probably buy the moon for that amount of money.
^For the record, Diamondback was $22 000 000. Or £ 11 mill. On the other hand, Kawasemi, a coaster of similar size and concept and built over an <img> lake they needed to dry first, cost about those 15 millions. USD. Half as much as Alton pours into this.
Now imagine what an Intamin Hyper would cost. You could probably buy the moon for that amount of money.
^For the record, Diamondback was $22 000 000. Or £ 11 mill. On the other hand, Kawasemi, a coaster of similar size and concept and built over an <img> lake they needed to dry first, cost about those 15 millions. USD. Half as much as Alton pours into this.
Aren't the US coasters actually produced in the US though? So everything is essentially "local". I don't know how much exchange rates make a difference, but we will have to pay more to pay for the steel production and manufacturing over in Switzerland. Then we will have to pay massive shipping costs to actually get the parts into the country.
On top of that, we'll also have to pay expenses for the Intamin team to come over and oversee the construction (including flights, etc). Of course, this will all be part of Intamin's price and Alton probably won't see it to the last tea-cake.
On top of that, construction seems to be something which is very expensive in the UK anyway. We pay a lot more to get things vertical than other countries.
I'm sure that money was also spent on the development of the "secret" and the advertising costs are likely to be lumped into the budget as well.
On top of that, we'll also have to pay expenses for the Intamin team to come over and oversee the construction (including flights, etc). Of course, this will all be part of Intamin's price and Alton probably won't see it to the last tea-cake.
On top of that, construction seems to be something which is very expensive in the UK anyway. We pay a lot more to get things vertical than other countries.
I'm sure that money was also spent on the development of the "secret" and the advertising costs are likely to be lumped into the budget as well.
Martyn B
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£12m for Saw?! The world has officially gone mental.
I'm pretty sure most people understand that you have to take everything into consideration with regards to the total 'project' cost, but £15m for this and £12m for Saw seems absolutely outrageous (unless the indoor section will be really good).
From what I remember, Rage cost about £1m... All Thorpe has paid for is a slightly bigger ride, with a 'themed' station and some land infill... :roll:
Martyn B
CF Legend
They must have bumped the price up for marketing purposes. Look at the other 3 main coasters, they all cost around the £10m mark, so to then build a new coaster with such hype, that only cost £4m, would probably give a bit of a 'meh' reaction from the GP.
Just a thought, thats all.
Just a thought, thats all.
Furie, the point of Kawasemi still stands. Switzerland-Britain is a fair distance for shipping parts, experts, etc, but surely Maryland-Japan is way longer?
Also, Tobu Zoo had to tear down Mount Rocky Coaster, dry the lake and then build Kawasemi, then fill the lake again. That's about equal to cutting down Corkscrew and a few trees, if not even more extensive.
I think what makes this so damned expensive must be that Alton specifically asked for that particular new element, and the designers had to make it from scratch. Still, it better be gold-plated and operated by the Pope for that price.
Or instead, we can look at this sentence:
So remember folks, you don't have fewer and smaller coasters than everybody else because your parks don't bother. You have fewer and smaller coasters than only a select few countries, because costs are so incredibly high in the UK.
You can't blame the parks for not investing, though, look at the gate numbers of Alton and BGE, and see which one shelled out the most on their latest project. Look at it that way, and Griffon was a very cheap investment.
Also, Tobu Zoo had to tear down Mount Rocky Coaster, dry the lake and then build Kawasemi, then fill the lake again. That's about equal to cutting down Corkscrew and a few trees, if not even more extensive.
I think what makes this so damned expensive must be that Alton specifically asked for that particular new element, and the designers had to make it from scratch. Still, it better be gold-plated and operated by the Pope for that price.
Or instead, we can look at this sentence:
Indeed.furie said:
So remember folks, you don't have fewer and smaller coasters than everybody else because your parks don't bother. You have fewer and smaller coasters than only a select few countries, because costs are so incredibly high in the UK.
You can't blame the parks for not investing, though, look at the gate numbers of Alton and BGE, and see which one shelled out the most on their latest project. Look at it that way, and Griffon was a very cheap investment.
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