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^Disney are doing the Snow Queen under the title of Frozen too, which should be amazing! I wish they're go back to the classic style of animation though, I'm really not a fan of the CGI =[
 
nadroJ said:
^Nah, apparently Nolan tends to make up his own storylines and even the backgrounds for his characters are completely different to those in the comic book, so I doubt being a fan would mean you could understand it more.
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Nah, they're actually sort of faithful to the graphic novels. Knightfall <3

^ Catwoman was almost a bit too sassy, even if she was talking normal it always sounded like she was trying to be super sexy and seductive, which annoyed me.
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Welcome to the defining quality of Catwoman.
 
^So are the graphic novels different to the comics then? Some people were telling me that in the comics Bane has something to do with the stock exchange and he's a yuppie like Bruce Wayne or something?
 
LiveForTheLaunch said:
So the movie wasn't good because you're dumb?
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Like I said, for Batman fans who have read the comics, know the characters, and know the storyline, it was probably a good movie. I know nothing about the Batman comics apart from Batman riding a Batmobile and saving people, so my knowledge of other characters/the storyline was pretty poor anyway. Action movies aren't my type of thing, Batman or not.
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It shouldn't matter if you know the background or not, most unique and amazing movies are plots that you have no idea whats happen going into seeing it. The fact that you've seen other Batmans and know even the basic plot you outlined shows you should know whats going on.. and when you shorten it.. that is what Rises was about.

But the fact remains, not liking it because you can't wrap your head around a storyline is just stupid. REALLY stupid.

NOW! Not liking it because you don't like action, that is perfectly fine. Your feelings toward a genre is perfectly fine.. as long as you don't like something for something other then you're dumb. ;)
 
The nolan batman films are set in the nightfall universe where bane breaks batmans back anne such, robin becomes batman for a while till he brings back bruce so he can join the justice league and then robin becomes night wing.

One quick side note to mention about TDKR there is no cat woman in the film the character is selina kyle not cat woman she does not become cat woman until she dies which is not yet in the timeline no where in the film do they refer to her as cat woman yes the cat burglar but not cat woman its the press that has branded her that but she is yet to become cat woman

but yes a great fil bane is awesome and just how he should be
 
^But, surely by giving her the cat ears when she flicks up her goggles, the tight black suit and the gymnastics in high heels sort of denotes her as Catwoman to a less Batman-educated audience?

^^I think one of the main reasons I don't like it so much is because of the pedestal it's been put up on, and how it's meant to be the best thing ever, and it's just, not. I want to see something original and unexpected and I'm not a massive action fan but if there can be action alongside proper take-my-breath-away-totally-didn't-see-that-coming style stuff then I'm all for it. When it's a tired out old franchise like Batman using age-old action plots that we've seen dozens of times before then I just really don't see why people were going to the extent of missing work to see the bloody thing XD

I do wish I could get excited for it and join in the hysteria, you rarely get such a massive reaction like this for films anymore and it's a bit poo that I can't be part of it =[ It's not like I've not tried to like the films (I saw both this and The Dark Knight twice at the cinema to try and get what it was all about) but it just doesn't do it for me. I will admit TDKR was better second time around, but only as far as popcorn movies go.
 
nadroJ said:
Like I said, I feel that on the surface Nolan's films appear really complicated (like Inception) but if you take the time to actually think about it they're not that complicated at all and are actually just highly stylised versions on ancient storytelling devices.
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Hmm, although I do partially agree with you on this point (and I am a big Nolan fan), I'm interested to see what you think of Nolan in comparison to M. Night Shyamalan. Like you say Nolan's films are, Shyamalan's films are also not particularlly complicated at all, and yet with the exception of The Sixth Sense - and maybe Unbreakable at a push - his films just don't carry through and grip and entertain me as much as Nolan's. In my eyes, both very similar writer-directors stylistically and in terms of twists, but Nolan carries far more with his films as they draw me in considerably more.
 
Nolan uses distraction brilliantly. I think it's a real skill he has to keep you distracted so you don't actually see how shallow the films are. It's like directorial sleight of hand. It's hard to explain, but each of his films I've been really taken by the first time I've watched them and on each watching thought massively less and less of them (except "The Prestige" which I just didn't really like from the start, I found it obvious and bland).

M. Night. Shambles makes "one watch films", and they're usually only good for one or two scenes at that.

It's really odd everyone saying how much they love the Nolan Batman series because it follows the Batman comics quite closely. I loved the original Burton Batman for exactly the same reason. It was almost identical to a Batman comic I had when I was about 6 or 7 :)
 
ciall said:
Hmm, although I do partially agree with you on this point (and I am a big Nolan fan), I'm interested to see what you think of Nolan in comparison to M. Night Shyamalan. Like you say Nolan's films are, Shyamalan's films are also not particularlly complicated at all, and yet with the exception of The Sixth Sense - and maybe Unbreakable at a push - his films just don't carry through and grip and entertain me as much as Nolan's. In my eyes, both very similar writer-directors stylistically and in terms of twists, but Nolan carries far more with his films as they draw me in considerably more.
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I don't get why you've brought up Shyamalan? His films are just.....bad to the point of ludicrousy hence why they are the butt of so many jokes. Shyamalan's version of a twist is to add something completely ridiculous and disjointed from the plot in order to surprise you. Well, of course you're going to be surprised because it's complete and utter nonsense. How that man directed The Sixth Sense I don't know because that's actually enjoyable (and quite scary at some points). To then follow that with the **** he has just proves that film was a complete fluke haha <//3.

furie said:
I think it's a real skill he has to keep you distracted so you don't actually see how shallow the films are. It's like directorial sleight of hand.
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Yes! And whilst this is quite a skill in itself I just don't think it equates to good storytelling, it's like cheating and cutting corners and that blows. A good film doesn't cut corners and doesn't need to distract you from the crap because there wouldn't BE any if it were actually a good film.
 
Well Batman was good. I really liked it, but I wasn't creaming my pants over it. I thought Catwoman was a bit... weak, and it did feel like it dragged a little bit, but I loved the characters, the story, the visuals, the music etc.

I don't really follow directors or any of that stuff - I watch a movie to switch off from the world for a bit and Batman did that perfectly. Incredibly enjoyable to watch, not perfect (oh, Bane's voice was a little annoying at times too), but overall I thought it was really excellent. It's strange reading all these reviews from people who are far more into Batman/directiors/etc than me (which is fine, we all have our passions), as it sometimes reads as if you care too much and can't enjoy it properly. I do notice different directors, and I do notice that some are better than others, but it doesn't seem to ever affect me that much. Or maybe I'm just easy to please... :p
 
But the fact remains, not liking it because you can't wrap your head around a storyline is just stupid. REALLY stupid.

NOW! Not liking it because you don't like action, that is perfectly fine. Your feelings toward a genre is perfectly fine.. as long as you don't like something for something other then you're dumb
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Which is why I said twice, it seems like it's a good movie, but how can I enjoy something if I have no background knowledge of Batman, the characters, the storyline, or anything? If I sit there confused for over three hours, I think that's a fairly justified reason for me not to like it... Doesn't mean it's a poorly made movie or anything though. But yeah, action is also totally not my thing at ALL.

I want the Candidate to come out. Zach Galifianakis <3
 
Why do you NEED to know the background about a movie to enjoy it? That's like having to know the layout of a coaster you've never ridden before you jumped on it. Absorbing the story as you go along, learning about the characters even if you haven't seen the other movies.. WHICH YOU HAVE.. is the best part about experiencing really anything in life. But sitting there confused just really means you're an idiot tbh.
 
LiveForTheLaunch said:
^ Or how about I just didn't like it for the reasons I said I didn't like it and you just respect my opinion? So, I don't like Batman, shoot me.
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I'm fine with you not liking Batman.. thought I said that? I'm not fine with you not liking something because you're an idiot. But, lets be honest, we kinda knew that anyway.
 
Nic said:
Just to break up the inevitable "OMFG Dark Knight Rises *fap fap fap*" monotony, here's some stuff I've watched recently.
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Edition three.

Megamind
I remember seeing trailers for this at the time and thinking it looked turdio. The driver put it on in the coach on the way back from SeaWorld, so I thought I may as well pay attention to it. Worryingly, I think I was probably the only one, and was definitely laughing more than anyone else (including all the kids on the bus! haha!) It was utterly predictable, but I actually really enjoyed it. Very funny in places, and a lot of fun to watch.
3.5/5

The Beautician and the Beast
There really is **** all on Netflix. We wanted something "so terrible it's amazing" and happened across this. What with this and Sextette, I really do wonder if Timothy Dalton actually reads the scripts he's sent before accepting the role. Anyway, it's basically 'The King and I' with bits of 'The Sound of Music' chucked in for good measure. It's hideously cringeworthy, but it kept us entertained and was definitely exactly the kind of thing we were after. Unless you're the sort of person that loves laughing at stuff that's hillariously bad, then steer well clear. Otherwise, go for it. The bit where she attempts to "scare a chicken to death" is a particular highlight.
3/5
 
I watched The Help tonight on Sky Anytime. I'd wanted to see it in the cinema but missed it. I really enjoyed it and I know it's based on a novel (that I haven't read) but I felt the incredible injustice felt by black people at this time just came across as women being bitches to each other in a more extreme than Mean Girls kind of way. The film was quite emotional at some points but I felt like this whole thing could have been completely made up as opposed to something based on historical fact. I also wanted to hear more of the maid's actual stories rather than going over and over the same few again and again. I was expecting something more hard hitting, like The Color Purple but instead got a kind of feel good drama about racism in the Deep South, which is something that just doesn't sit right with me. I'd give it a 7/10.
 
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